Grafting Astringent Persimmon

vanman23(6b/7a - OK)January 21, 2014

Ok, I am new to this so forgive me if this is a crazy question.

My parent live in the Los Angeles area and they have an asian astringent persimmon. It does not appear if it loses all of its leaves, but I am not there much in the winter.

My question is can cutting be taken off of it and when. And can I graft it on to the many american persimmons I have growing here in OK? The only grafting I've ever done are pecan trees (bark graft and banana grafts). Any other info that might help would be appreciated.

Thanks in advanced

Van

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cousinfloyd

I don't think you'd need to do anything very different in grafting persimmons than you would with pecans. It seems persimmons are most often grafted with one or another variation of bark graft. I've successfully banana grafted at least one persimmon, although I think the size wasn't there for a banana graft to really make sense. If you'd be interested in a thorough tutorial specifically about grafting persimmons do a search for "quality whitetail deer persimmon grafting". (Deer hunters like persimmon trees for deer bait.)

I might be careful about collecting scions from an unknown variety in Los Angeles to grow in Oklahoma, though. Hardiness isn't something I'd take for granted even in a solid zone 7, especially not in an area with irregular temperature swings.

    Bookmark   January 22, 2014 at 8:27AM
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lucky_p

If you can successfully graft pecan, persimmon will be a walk in the park. Simple bark graft works fine - and is what I do - but I've also done just simple whip grafts with 100% success.
Aftercare is the most critical part of the deal - persimmon is adamant about pushing growth below the graft, and it's imperative to check - almost daily - and rub off any rootstock shoots as soon as they appear.
They do need some heat to callus in, so I do all my persimmon grafts after the rootstock is pushing vigorous growth, and the bark is slipping well. Not sure about when to harvest scionwood in CA - I cut mine in Feb/early March here in KY.
cuznfloyd makes a good point about hardiness - some of the Asian persimmons that work well in CA may not be sufficiently winter-hardy, but...nothing ventured, nothing gained. Astringent types appear to be generally more cold-hardy than the non-astringents.

    Bookmark   January 22, 2014 at 10:00AM
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