Attention SHB Blueberry nuts

bamboo_rabbit(9A Inverness FL)April 4, 2013

Just a FYI if you did not already know there is a new BB cultivar "about" to hit the market. The name is Raven and it is the last of the BB developed by Dr. Lyrene before his retirement from the University of Florida. Dr. Lyrene invented I have no idea how many BB both SHB and rabbits but some of his better known varieties are: Abundance, Primadonna, Sweetcrisp, Springhigh, Springwide, Southernbelle, Sebring, Millenia, Windsor, Emerald, Jewel, Bluecrisp....and a BUNCH more.

The last series of BB all had bird names. Bobolink, Meadowlark, Kestrel, Raven.....there is one more that escapes me.

I have already created a 14 plant row for the Ravens and it is my last available BB row. First the good news then the bad....

Raven produces HUGE berries. The average is 4 grams! but it is very common for it to produce nickle and quarter size berries that have exceptionally good flavor 9/10. Has no blight or rot problems. My commercial grower friend that saw the mother bushes said 50%+ of the berries were nickel to quarter size.

Now the "bad" news..... Raven is a late variety. It blooms about the time Star does. Because the fruit is so big it has a large scar. What that means is the cultivar is not going to be popular with the commercial folks as they want very EARLY berries and small scar that packs and ships well. To us home growers the lateness is an advantage as it prolongs the harvest and the plant is much less likely to get damaged by the cold. The scar....also a non issue for the home growers that consume or freeze the berries soon after harvest.

Because it is not going to be a commercial hit it is going to be a pain to get..think sweetcrisps were tough? This one is going to be much much worse. It is very possible these plants will never make it past limited distribution. Only ONE nursery is licensed to produce the plants. I have talked to Dr. Lyrene about this and there are no other options to acquiring the plants.

If anyone is interested let me know, here or via email. I can get the plants in the fall through a friend who is a commercial BB grower. I don't know cost yet or size. They might be 1 gallons they might be liners..... no idea on cost either but won't be expensive. Just trying to gauge interest. I won't make a profit on this just trying to help my fellow BB lunatics out and get plants out that could disappear.

It is kind of sad that the commercial side dictates whether a variety becomes popular or not but that is just how the market works.

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fruitnut Z7 4500ft SW TX

I think I already asked for two but would up that to 5-10 Raven if avaliable.

The other one of the five is Chickadee. The link below describes all five and gives pictures. I'd be interested in trying any of them. My experience is I can't tell from a description which will work best. The FHN unknown I have looks like Meadowlark because of the big berries and very loose clusters.

Here is a link that might be useful: New FL blueberries

    Bookmark   April 4, 2013 at 9:01AM
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bamboo_rabbit(9A Inverness FL)

Thanks for the link and the name. A liner tray would be 60 plants so that is my target. I would take 1 gallons as well but my bet is liners will be what is available.

So I already have 25 requested plus your 10 so at 35.

    Bookmark   April 4, 2013 at 9:19AM
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blueboy1977(TX9A/B)

I will take 2, sorry if thats too many!

    Bookmark   April 4, 2013 at 10:41AM
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gator_rider2(z8 Ga.)

Thanks Bam I take 10 are what ever I can get less than 10.

    Bookmark   April 4, 2013 at 11:19AM
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Bradybb WA-Zone8

Sure,I'd like to try two if available. Thanks,Brady

    Bookmark   April 4, 2013 at 11:39AM
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shazaam(NC 7B)

I'd like 3, if possible. Thanks!

    Bookmark   April 4, 2013 at 11:44AM
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bamboo_rabbit(9A Inverness FL)

I can't guarantee how many I can get but will distribute in the order asked for.

    Bookmark   April 4, 2013 at 12:01PM
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hoosierquilt USDA 10A Sunset 23 Vista CA(10b Sunset 23)

Bamboo, count me in for 2, let's see how they fare in S. Calfornia. I'm going to try to undertake building a large rectangular planter that runs along the side of my greenhouse that I can plant my blueberries in the front, and my thornless blackberries and raspberries behind, to climb on a trellis against the side of the greenhouse. I will also have it on a drip system, so no chance of forgetting to water.

Patty S.

    Bookmark   April 4, 2013 at 12:19PM
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sandiego4s

I want two. Thank you Bamboo!

    Bookmark   April 4, 2013 at 12:38PM
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insteng

If you have any extra available I would like to try a couple. I am just getting blueberries started at my place but my neighbor has some huge bushes and said they grow really well up there near my farm.

    Bookmark   April 4, 2013 at 12:39PM
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bamboo_rabbit(9A Inverness FL)

That would be 58... at 60 a liner tray is locked in. For anyone after that they would have to wait till the next 60 are spoken for.

    Bookmark   April 4, 2013 at 12:51PM
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Puggylover Zone 9B Norco, CA

I would take the last 2 if still available. Do you know anything about the chill on them?

Jennifer

    Bookmark   April 4, 2013 at 1:04PM
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bamboo_rabbit(9A Inverness FL)

Chill is 300-400.

    Bookmark   April 4, 2013 at 1:24PM
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Puggylover Zone 9B Norco, CA

Right at my max. Should be okay.

I have 4 plants - Pink Lemonade, Southmoon, Sharpblue and Sunshine Blue. They are in their 2nd year and are doing great. Just about ready for me to start munching on'em.

    Bookmark   April 4, 2013 at 2:04PM
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resalesally

If there are any left, I would like two. Thank you.

    Bookmark   April 4, 2013 at 6:00PM
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bob_z6(6b/7a SW CT)

I'm interested in 3, if possible. If you have anyway to include a Bobolink, I'd be interested in that as well.

Has their hardiness been tested? I can grow them in pots if needed, but I'd like to try one in the yard as well.

I've been growing Sweetcrisp in pots, but have had problems with set- they leaf out too early in the garage. I've tried bringing a couple indoors, and so far I haven't gotten any fruit-set. I remember that Fruitnut got some without pollination, so maybe the plants just need to be older.

    Bookmark   April 4, 2013 at 7:47PM
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ravenh2001

If you get enough call for a second liner I would like 4. Something in the name caught my eye. thank you.

    Bookmark   April 4, 2013 at 9:12PM
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fruitnut Z7 4500ft SW TX

bob:

This year without pollination my Sweetcrisp aren't setting worth a lick. Star on the other hand seems to be full set but it's just a little early to be sure. I may have more observations later.

    Bookmark   April 4, 2013 at 10:22PM
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ronniebilt

I would take 10 Raven Blueberry. I am in Sacramento, California

This post was edited by d1od1a on Fri, Apr 5, 13 at 8:52

    Bookmark   April 4, 2013 at 10:34PM
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bamboo_rabbit(9A Inverness FL)

d1od1a,

Do you mean raven?

    Bookmark   April 5, 2013 at 7:32AM
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strudeldog_gw

If you are working on the 2nd liner I would like 4
Thanks

    Bookmark   April 5, 2013 at 9:38AM
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mayadawg(zone 9 san francisco)

Bamboo
if there is still room to jump in 2-4 ravens would be nice..
Also if you see a source for the chickadee let me know. interested in the high pollen as well as the taste profile they have.

    Bookmark   May 23, 2013 at 9:15PM
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rayrose(8)

I'd like to try two of them, Thanks

Since both Raven and Sweetcrisp are characterized as Midseason, would they pollinate each other?

This post was edited by rayrose on Fri, May 24, 13 at 11:16

    Bookmark   May 24, 2013 at 7:34AM
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Schlemoc(5)

I would like 2 of those to try in zone 5. Hopefully they do well. Many of the other varieties named are in my patch.

    Bookmark   May 26, 2013 at 9:15AM
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bamboo_rabbit(9A Inverness FL)

Got it. Should have more details in October.

    Bookmark   May 26, 2013 at 9:51AM
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another_buffalo(6)

Bamboo
Could you put me down for 3 if they become available? Its very gracious of you to do this for us. The Raven may do ok in zone 6 but I would worry about the others here.

    Bookmark   May 26, 2013 at 10:20AM
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yawiney

If you get the 2nd liner i will also take 2. Thanks.

    Bookmark   May 26, 2013 at 3:32PM
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yawiney

If you get the 2nd liner i will also take 2. Thanks.

    Bookmark   May 27, 2013 at 12:40AM
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bamboo_rabbit(9A Inverness FL)

we are at 116 so two liner trays are taken care of at this point.

    Bookmark   May 27, 2013 at 9:06AM
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wlh8723(7)

Bamboo_rabbit. If you get another liner ( or a cancel )I would like 2 or 3. Thanks

    Bookmark   May 29, 2013 at 3:18PM
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rosieo(7 NC)

If you get another liner, I'd like to get 10. Thanks.

    Bookmark   May 31, 2013 at 1:55PM
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waiting_gw

Put me in for 5 Raven if they should become available.

Thanks,

gary

    Bookmark   May 31, 2013 at 5:58PM
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spdem2

If you get another liner or have someone who cancels, I would love to get 3. Thank you!

    Bookmark   May 31, 2013 at 7:49PM
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hopsalot

I will take up to 12 plants, if possible. Thanks Bamboo!

    Bookmark   June 17, 2013 at 9:11PM
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ronniebilt

Any news on Raven blueberry plants if they are going to be available and at what price??

Thanks Bamboo for your effort

    Bookmark   October 5, 2013 at 7:32PM
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bamboo_rabbit(9A Inverness FL)

diod1a,

They said to call back in October and I called them last Tuesday and have yet to receive a return call. Don't read anything in to that they are horrible about returning calls and always have been. I will try them again this coming week.

    Bookmark   October 5, 2013 at 9:00PM
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bamboo_rabbit(9A Inverness FL)

I have talked with him and he does not have liners he does not think.....they will probably be bigger field run (bareroot) plants. He does not have a ton of them either as it is the first year. Will add more details as I get them.

    Bookmark   October 15, 2013 at 11:48AM
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bamboo_rabbit(9A Inverness FL)

I have talked back and forth with them as he was checking on the plants and received an email from Millers today and:

"We will not have any Raven available this year. We are currently expanding our inventory and they will be available next year. Sorry we could not supply your needs. Please feel free to call me. We may have other varieties that interest you"

It is a bit annoying as in the spring he assured me the plants would be available. Perhaps they are distributing none or perhaps larger orders trumped our less than 200 plant order, have no idea.

For the west coast folks Fall Creek now has a license on the Ravens as well though they don't sell retail and have a 500 plant minimum. I did inquire of them on when they would be available.

Sorry folks, I tried. I have had my 14 plant row tilled, irrigation in and ready for these things for well over a year now so to say I am disappointed is an understatement.

This post was edited by bamboo_rabbit on Thu, Oct 24, 13 at 16:45

    Bookmark   October 24, 2013 at 3:59PM
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insteng

I appreciate you trying. I know you had tried hard to help everybody out.

    Bookmark   October 24, 2013 at 4:36PM
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Bradybb WA-Zone8

Thanks,maybe later.It's not a huge deal to me.I have so many plants now,I'm probably going to have to give some away. Brady

    Bookmark   October 25, 2013 at 1:13PM
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blueboy1977(TX9A/B)

No problem Bam, not all is lost, I'm willing to bet that bed will have some Sweetcrisp in it before Spring gets here??? I'm getting pressed for room too! I've gotten rid of a bunch of blues to make room for some figs I have showing up this fall anyway.

    Bookmark   October 25, 2013 at 3:37PM
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bamboo_rabbit(9A Inverness FL)

Nope that row is reserved for the Ravens and that is what is going in there. I heard from him again and he explained what had happened. He told me I am first on the list for the plants when they are ready. I can take rooted cuttings in June if I want them so just a delay......

    Bookmark   October 25, 2013 at 3:45PM
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bamboo_rabbit(9A Inverness FL)

Please see the link below

Here is a link that might be useful: Raven

    Bookmark   March 17, 2014 at 1:51PM
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inkfin

Bamboo,
Please add my name on your list for two if you received them in June as they promised and if you still have a couple of them for me. Thanks.

    Bookmark   July 21, 2014 at 12:40PM
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Baby G (Z10, 300?CH, SoCal-LA)(10)

Wow - so hard to get! Bamboo you are so lovely.
Did you ever get your plants?

Oh... I just saw the link above.

    Bookmark   August 10, 2014 at 1:12AM
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