Fertilizer for persimmons?

ruasApril 9, 2008

Hello,

Newbie here so really appreciate any advice from the experts in the forum. I have a persimmons (about 3 years old) planted last July. It had fruits then but dropped. The tree is leafing now (after playing dead for the whole winter). I really want to have fruits this year so am thinking to give it some TLC. I have a bag of fertilizer for Citrus and Avocado (Sta-Green) got from Lowes. It's a granular form. I was wondering if I can use the fertilizer for my persimmons? And does it help to get fruits this year? Some details of the fertilizer are below:

Sta-green for citrus and avocado (granular) (Formulated to encourage high yields of fruit)

12-5-8 with Magnesium (1.5%), Sulfur (3.0%) and Iron (1.0%)

Thanks a lot in advance!

rua

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lucky_p

Everything I've ever seen written on the topic recommended against high-nitrogen fertilizers for persimmons. Some have even suggested that nitrogen fertilizer may result in premature fruit drop.

    Bookmark   April 9, 2008 at 11:22PM
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juniorpilot(USDA 10 Suns 20)

ruas:

Too much nitrogen fertilization is known to cause persimmon fruit drop.

I don't know what caused your persimmon fruit drop last winter. But two or three years is a bit young for a persimmon tree to hold its fruit to maturity. It may be that in this coming fourth year it will be old enough to hold its fruit to maturity. If you put any nitrogenous fertilizer on it in those first three years, I would suspect that MAYBE there was too much nitrogen also.

A certain amount of fruit drop is natural in persimmons. My Hachiya will drop quite a bit of fruit on its own, but I still have to manually thin the remaining fruitlets even more to prevent branches from breaking when the fruit mature. It started bearing in its third year.

Persimmons do well without too much fussing over fertilization and irrigation given that the soil is half-way decent. If it gets roughly 6 hours of sunlight and enough water that the soil doesn't dry out four inches down, you should get persimmons this coming winter. I would go very easy on the TLC. It's possible to kill fruit trees with too much TLC -- especially with too much water and especially for "newbies."

Hang-in there this fourth year. I sometimes think that the reason I'm so interested in home orcharding is that Somebody wants to teach me patience -- on which I am thin.

Your 12-5-8 formulation is "hot" in nitrogen which citrus and avocado can use. But I wouldn't put any on my persimmon tree without a soil test beforehand to know whether my soil was nitrogen deficient or not.

Tony

    Bookmark   April 10, 2008 at 12:01AM
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ruas

Tony and Lucky,
Thanks a lot for your advice. I guess I stay away from the fertilizer then.
ruas

    Bookmark   April 10, 2008 at 6:36AM
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wild_forager

I'm going with a 4-6-8 citrus fertilizer as mine dropped fruit last year as well (but that may have been due to overwatering). I ordered my fertilizer from Edible Landscaping.

    Bookmark   April 10, 2008 at 10:05AM
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african20_msn_com

Had a persimmon for 3 year now. It is growing well, about 6 ft ,lots of green foliage, but not flowers, no fruit. There was fruit when I bought the tree at 3 feet tall. What is causing the no flowering problem? Another tree I have 30 feet away is producing, but not growing. Stunted growth. Any help someone can offer would be appreciated. Thanks

    Bookmark   May 31, 2011 at 12:47AM
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