US crop going to be a little short for some fruits?

franktank232(z5 WI)May 7, 2012

I've been reading a lot of the damage out of Michigan, the northeast US. Now today I read this;

"A bad freeze has wiped out 80% of the Ontario apple crop, causing damage estimated at over $100 million.

"This is the worst disaster fruit growers have ever, ever experienced," orchard owner Keith Wright said Friday.

"We've been here for generations and I've never heard of this happening before across the province. This is unheard of where all fruit growing areas in the Great Lakes area, in Michigan, Pennsylvania, New York State, Ontario, are all basically wiped out. It's unheard of," the Harrow, Ont.-area grower said."

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Going to be some expensive apples, along with many other fruits this summer/fall.

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oldryder

if my experience is typical (central MN) then MN and WI should still be OK.

    Bookmark   May 7, 2012 at 3:39PM
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blazeaglory(10 SZ22/24 OC Ca)

Dang that suck:-(

IS it because of the early Spring and bloom? Then a bad frost? If we didnt have such an early Spring would this have been avoided? Or was the frost too late in the year to even matter?

    Bookmark   May 7, 2012 at 3:50PM
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barnhardt9999(8a)

This reminds me. I wish there was a weather section on the forum. Any moderators around?

    Bookmark   May 7, 2012 at 3:59PM
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franktank232(z5 WI)

Glory-

That is exactly the reason. That warmth in March (records everywhere east of the Rockies it seems) caused an unheard of 4-6 weeks before average bloom on most trees. When the cold returned (aimed squarely at Michigan and points east), the damaged occurred.

Around Wisconsin, Minnesota for the most part we got lucky, with only a couple of nights with frost and one or 2 hard freezes (depending on where you are). I think some of areas of the state had it a little worse. For the most part I would assume Wisconsin and Minnesota have a full crop of apples.

    Bookmark   May 7, 2012 at 4:25PM
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denninmi(8a)

I honestly can't tell yet on a lot of my stuff. Some things are clearly killed, a few are clearly developing (pears, a few sour cherries). A lot is just kind of sitting there not doing much, but overall it's been cool. I guess time will tell.

    Bookmark   May 7, 2012 at 4:47PM
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oldryder

central mn - my plum blossoms all got frosted but apples and cherries seem fine (for now, anyway).

    Bookmark   May 7, 2012 at 5:09PM
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Edymnion(7a)

Short answer yes, long answer no.
Most of the apple production in the world comes from China, not the US. Local produce markets will feel the hit big time, but big national chains probably won't even see a hiccup.

    Bookmark   May 7, 2012 at 8:25PM
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ltilton

Don't they process most of it, though?

    Bookmark   May 7, 2012 at 9:21PM
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denninmi(8a)

Yeah, something else China can take away from us. At what cost? The Chinese are notorious for using all kinds of chemicals that are banned here. Look at all of the toxic products that have come out of China -- dog food, baby formula are two recent examples.

No, no, no. Just wrong.

    Bookmark   May 7, 2012 at 11:08PM
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larry_gene

Some Washington State growers have been letting their fruit drop on the ground the past couple of years due to market conditions. Perhaps this year they will be able to use them all.

    Bookmark   May 7, 2012 at 11:20PM
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calliope(6)

I have a friend who has run his family's orchard his whole life, and says he has to compete with Apples from Africa. My apple crop this year is going to be a bumper crop, thank God unless we have a freaky freeze now and I have seen it freeze clean into June once. All the more reason our food crops should not be centralised by a few major companies. I remember the rains knocking out the pumpkin crop two years ago, because almost all of it was produced by one company in their fields in one state.

    Bookmark   May 7, 2012 at 11:46PM
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Konrad___far_north(3..just outside of Edmonton)

Nothing is a sure thing until harvest time, a good hail can wipe it out for me. I guess now in Canada we have to count on the fruits from British Columbia....cant' wait for the Cherries and Peaches! Better growing condition then Ontario.

    Bookmark   May 8, 2012 at 12:41AM
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blazeaglory(10 SZ22/24 OC Ca)

Only buy American Produce (Middle and south are included too)...hehehe

George Soros is planning on flooding the American market with cheap produce and grain. He is buying up farmland in Africa by the square mile.

    Bookmark   May 8, 2012 at 1:29AM
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ltilton

Thus throwing the Africans into the streets of unemployment.

You can often tell on the label where the product has come from. Brands like "Simply Apple" juice get their fruit from Canada.

    Bookmark   May 8, 2012 at 8:39AM
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theaceofspades(7 Long Island)

I put little trust in stuff coming from south of the border, so am looking into a high efficiency freezer.

    Bookmark   May 8, 2012 at 9:54AM
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camp10

Back to the original topic, I'm in southern Wisconsin. After the warm early spring, I got down into the 26-28 degree range quite a few times. My findings:

Pears: 100% crop failure.
Apples: Depending on the tree, 0%-50% crop failure.
Peaches: Not sure yet. I only have one tree. There are a few fruits that may develop.
Strawberries: I have a lot of blossoms. 25% or so have a black center. Does that mean that it won't fruit?
Blackberries, grapes, currants, gooseberries: Not sure yet.

    Bookmark   May 8, 2012 at 2:32PM
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ltilton

Yes, the black centers on the strawberry blossoms mean no berries. I lost about 10% of mine, I'd say.

    Bookmark   May 8, 2012 at 3:08PM
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ltilton

Out today bagging my Galas, most of which seem to have frost rings. But they're apples, so I'm not complaining.

Pears appear to have cracks radiating from the blossom end. Dunno what to make of that.

    Bookmark   May 8, 2012 at 3:13PM
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franktank232(z5 WI)

The update for the fruit crop in the state of Michigan came out this morning from Michigan State University... If you have a little time, skim through it...lots and lots of damage...sounds like areas of the state further south may have at least something to pick.

MSU fruit update

    Bookmark   May 8, 2012 at 3:52PM
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denninmi(8a)

Thanks for posting the link to MSU. But, reading it made me sad.

Still too early to tell for me this year. I'm sure I'll end up with something... well, there's always rhubarb.

    Bookmark   May 8, 2012 at 4:21PM
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mrsg47(7)

Wow! I'm not out of the woods yet, but, I do have a few Italian Plums that probably will not set, as it is the first year that the tree has bloomedf. I do and will have sour cherries and I have over 20 good sized apricots on my tree. My currants and strawberries are in full force. Time to net the strawberries. Don't know about apples yet. What a year. Mrs. G

    Bookmark   May 8, 2012 at 7:31PM
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keepitlow(6)

Apples already $1.50 each or more at Kroger for the large ones. They are getting $3.49 a pound for Honeycrisp. But thsese were the prices before any freeze. The only thing worse are the fish prices!

    Bookmark   May 8, 2012 at 7:52PM
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mrsg47(7)

Frank the MSU report is mind-boggling. I knew it was bad,I didn't know it was that bad. Time to sell my fruit! Mrs. G

    Bookmark   May 9, 2012 at 10:20AM
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denninmi(8a)

Um, yeah, I walked around last night. EVERYTHING is gone. Even the pears and apples I thought looked ok. Touch them, and they now just fall off like brown needles from an old Christmas tree. Tissue in the center, the ovaries, is brown and dead.

Now, I think I'm literally not going to get ANY fruit. But, I would be surprised if, out of the thousands and thousands and thousands of blooms on a full sized apple tree, that a few couldn't make it. Time will tell.

    Bookmark   May 9, 2012 at 1:10PM
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camp10

Yikes! Sorry to hear that Denninmi. THat must have given you a sick feeling.

I just read that report from MSU liked above. Not a lot of good news there either.

    Bookmark   May 9, 2012 at 2:47PM
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denninmi(8a)

Well, you know, it just goes with the territory. So, if there isn't anything this year, that means its a good year to prune, do maintenance, etc. Not that spraying and harvesting take all that much time, but an hour is an hour, it can be used for something else.

    Bookmark   May 9, 2012 at 4:19PM
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