Has Anyone Grown and Eaten an Angel Red Pomegranate???

CreatedToCook(CA 10a/SunsetZn. 22)June 10, 2014

Do any of you grow an Angel Red Pomegranate??? I am considering growing it in my front yard.

My mom has a "white/pink" variety of Pomegranate that has very soft edible seeds, lots of juice and very sweet, (almost no acidity). I don't know the exact variety. But the tree has large thorns and isn't as beautiful to look at as many of the red pomegranate varieties.

I came across an Angel Red Pomegranate tree in a 5 gallon pot, but not all that big, at Lowes the other day. It's supposed to be an "exceptional" variety.

Is this true or is it mostly just marketing hype???

I would like to plant it in the front of my house on the far left corner between me and my neighbor. I need it to be a beautiful landscaping plant as well as bear delicious fruit. Does the tree have large thorns? How does the fruit taste?

I'm also open to other varieties of Pomegranate, or even other beautiful and delicious fruit trees.

About Angel Red Pomegranate From Monrovia Website:
This unique, new and improved Pomegranate has exceptional qualities that make it simply the best on the market. A heavy crop of large, vivid red fruit ripens in early fall, having less pulp and higher juice content than any other selection. Best of all, the seeds are soft enough to be eaten! A beautiful landscape specimen with striking orange-red summer flowers on upright, fountain like branches.

http://www.monrovia.com/plant-catalog/plants/2844/angel-red-pomegranate/

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MrClint

I'm a huge Angel Red fan. It does well for me here in So Cal. Since it is earlier than most other varieties it makes a good second pom to plant --thus extending the season.

Here's my AR starting to bloom back in early April:

    Bookmark   June 10, 2014 at 4:11PM
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steve_in_los_osos

This the second year in the ground for my Angel Red (it spent its first year from bare root in a large fabric "pot"). I'm growing it as a traditional horizontal cordon espalier. This year I have some blooms and already a couple of fruit set (I've been using a small brush to encourage pollination!). The lower two tiers are filled out and the upper two about half-way.

I should add that I don't live in ideal pomegranate territory. We have cool marine summers (overcast nearly all last week and so far this week) but the plant is doing amazingly well. It even went totally dormant this past winter (which poms here tend not to do). Looking good so far. Now to see if the fruit actually develops (and is edible...).

    Bookmark   June 10, 2014 at 6:32PM
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CreatedToCook(CA 10a/SunsetZn. 22)

Thanks for sharing. The blossoms look beautiful. I would love to see a wide angle shot of your horizontal cordon espalier.

    Bookmark   June 10, 2014 at 6:53PM
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CreatedToCook(CA 10a/SunsetZn. 22)

MrClint: Do you grow another variety of Pomegranate also? If so, which one?

I am trying to decide between Angel Red and Ever Sweet... I'm not sure if I should grow one of each or just one.

I have limited space, so I'm trying to be very thoughtful in my plant choices.

    Bookmark   June 10, 2014 at 8:13PM
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melikeeatplants

The Eversweet will be similar to your Moms plant; no acid, soft seeds, sweet. Why not get Angel Red and have something a little different....

    Bookmark   June 10, 2014 at 10:20PM
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MrClint

My other pom is a 'Wonderful' which is an excellent variety here. The two poms compliments each other well. Wonderful has larger fruit and showier blossoms than Angel Red. But AR has much softer seeds and harvests a little earlier.

Here's my Angel Red after heavy Winter pruning, and just starting to leaf out in February:

This post was edited by mrclint on Tue, Jun 10, 14 at 23:30

    Bookmark   June 10, 2014 at 11:29PM
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CreatedToCook(CA 10a/SunsetZn. 22)

MeLikeEatPlants:

My Mom has had her "White Pomegranate" tree for at least 6+ years now. It is probably 7-8 feet tall. But has been very poor in giving us fruit. I can probably count on one hand the number of pomegranates we've gotten in the last 6 years. She lives right next to the ocean, and moved into a home that had very heavy red clay soil. She built a raised bed to plant all of her plants in and had tons of top soil added. But no luck. She thinks it's because of her poor clay soil and the strong afternoon winds. When we have gotten fruit from the tree, it is delicious. Which is why I am considering growing the Ever Sweet... because it sounds very similar to what she has based on all the descriptions I've read online. I'm feeling like I will have better luck than her with growing pomegranates.

    Bookmark   June 11, 2014 at 12:16AM
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CreatedToCook(CA 10a/SunsetZn. 22)

MrClint: Has it been a fast growing plant for you? How old do you figure your pomegranate tree is?

Steve_in_los_osos: How far apart did you plant your espalier Pomegranates? I have limited space, so I'm trying to figure out how close I could potentially plant them to create a living wall between me and my neighbor.

    Bookmark   June 11, 2014 at 12:22AM
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steve_in_los_osos

Here are some photos of my Angel Red Espalier. It is between two others (young pawpaw in shade structure and first year persimmon). The espaliers are all 8 ft. wide and about 5 ft. apart. They run north-to-south in a side yard that heats up nicely (when there is sun...) and gets very little sun during the winter, except for maybe some of the top tiers--which is fine because they don't need sun when dormant and the pawpaw will probably enjoy the extra chill from the winter shade.

I was checking the pom this morning and it seems I have at least three fruits definitely set. Whether they will hold on and/or actually ripen here by the bay remains to be seen. It's always an adventure!

    Bookmark   June 11, 2014 at 7:07PM
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fabaceae_native

What about AR taste? Does it live up to all the hype? I'm guessing it does not stand out that much since nobody mentioned anything about taste, only early ripening. I know the appearance and soft seeds were two more points being touted ever since this variety came on the scene.

    Bookmark   June 11, 2014 at 11:47PM
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MrClint

fabaceae_native, Angel Red has excellent eating quality here. Guess I didn't state that fact clearly. It tastes very much like Wonderful, which is also excellent here.

CreatedToCook, poms grow quickly here. I heavily Summer prune to maintain size, and Winter prune to maintain desired shape and form. My Angel Red is about 4-5 years old now. It took a year or two to start bearing as did Wonderful.

    Bookmark   June 12, 2014 at 12:25AM
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CreatedToCook(CA 10a/SunsetZn. 22)

Steve_in_Los_Osos:
Thank You for sharing those pictures. It is so fun and inspirational to see how your espaliers are coming along. I am definitely going to have to do this.

Do you have the Pom trimmed down to just a single trunk espalier??? Or did you allow it to grow as a multi-trunk espalier??? I couldn't quite tell from the picture.

    Bookmark   June 12, 2014 at 1:55AM
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steve_in_los_osos

I did a single trunk. I'd read that poms do better as informal "fans" but I didn't want that much disorder (!) and wasn't worried about maximum production. Here I need maximum air flow to minimize disease issues and maximum sun exposure (when there is any sun), so I opted for a simple horizontal cordon system. Persimmons have a similar new-wood bearing habit and the Aussies have been growing them commercially this way for awhile so I figured I would just follow their pruning strategy for those with the pom and see what happens. So far, so good!

    Bookmark   June 12, 2014 at 11:25AM
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CreatedToCook(CA 10a/SunsetZn. 22)

Steve_In_Los_Osos:
Did you use cement to anchor in your Wood Posts for the Espalier? I had this idea of using some large empty Protein Powder tubs/buckets my husband has. Sticking the large wooden posts into the bucket and filling the bucket with cement to create like a heavy wide base for the tall wooden posts... kinda like a cement foot. Then I was going to proceed by burying the posts 1-2 feet in the ground. Did you do something similar? Or did you use a different technique?

    Bookmark   June 12, 2014 at 2:15PM
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CreatedToCook(CA 10a/SunsetZn. 22)

Steve_In_Los_Osos:

I just realized I should bury the posts more like 2-3 feet in the ground for more stability. How deep did you bury your posts?

    Bookmark   June 12, 2014 at 2:54PM
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Fascist_Nation(9b)

Let us know how that pawpaw works out.

    Bookmark   June 12, 2014 at 4:46PM
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melikeeatplants

You can just pour the concrete into the hole, it doesn't need a form unless you wanted a perfect circle or something.

    Bookmark   June 12, 2014 at 6:19PM
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steve_in_los_osos

I did not use concrete. I used a standard PT fence post and a post hole digger to go down 2-3 feet, then packed and watered the backfill. I also used a length of electrical conduit between the tops of the posts to discourage any drawing together as I tightened the wires. I've done the same thing for a trio of citrus in the back yard and they look fine after a few years. The lemon is almost completely filled in now and shows no sign of shifting.

There's a whole never-ending debate about fence posts and whether you should use concrete or not. I just didn't want to be bothered. The posts will eventually rot and need to be replaced so this way I won't have to wrestle with the concrete at that point. My take, anyway. Now when I build my kiwi trellis later this year......I might consider concrete :-)

@FN, the pawpaw is actually growing really well this season (second year in the ground) so I got a good deal for $10 from Gurneys. It lived where others before have died (in fact I have another $10 backup in the greenhouse and two smaller plants I started from seed myself last year--can you tell I don't trust pawpaws???). Unfortunately it did not branch after heading it back in the dormant season so I may end up trying the KNNN espalier approach rather than head it again and lose all the slow growth.

    Bookmark   June 12, 2014 at 7:02PM
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