When to thin apples??

oldryderJune 5, 2013

My apples are almost done blooming. Do I need to wait until the apples begin to form or can I thin the remainder of the flowers?

It's been a long wait (5 years) but I'm gong to have a LOT of apples this year barring any calamity.

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jean001a(Portland OR 7b)

When they're the size of small olives.
Keep the largest, most perfect one of each cluster.

    Bookmark   June 5, 2013 at 7:36PM
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marknmt

Sooner is better. As I understand it, you can limit/control biennialism in apples by getting the aplets off immediately, even if that means removing blossoms. Your ultimate goal is to space apples to about one every 9", or thumbtip to pinkytip on a wide opened hand. But many people leave some cushion, as there will be June drop of the unpollinated apples. If you spray with carbaryl (Sevin) it will do a lot of thinning for you, maybe too much. And a certain number of apples will be damaged by bugs and birds and such.

    Bookmark   June 5, 2013 at 7:41PM
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ltilton

I start to thin when the difference between the pollinated and the unpollinated fruit becomes evident, as the stems of the unpollinated apples turn yellow and the fruits drop.

    Bookmark   June 5, 2013 at 8:37PM
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alan haigh

I have thinned entire clusters of flowers on varieties that are stubbornly biennial. Generally, if you thin within 3 weeks of petal fall you get most of the benefits. By about 9 days after you should have a good idea about what has set.

I believe weather has a big affect on how well this will happen- if the tree can't store a lot of energy due to cool wet weather during bloom through early post petal fall it may reject much of the crop even if flowers were pollinated.

    Bookmark   June 6, 2013 at 10:19AM
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fruitnut Z7 4500ft SW TX

The people using chemical apple thinners have taught me a lot about weather and fruit drop. During those first weeks after bloom there is a large effect of carbohydrate levels in the tree vs fruit number and growth rate. Things increasing photosynthesis and carbohydrates hold more fruit on the tree. If energy levels in the tree fall, fruit falls off more and sooner.

Their thinners are much more effective during warm cloudy weather than during cool weather with sunny conditions. Warm weather increases fruit growth and carbohydrate needs. Clouds reduce carbohydrates and the fruit falls off.

A few days under total shade will knock all the fruit off the tree.

    Bookmark   June 6, 2013 at 10:46AM
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ltilton

Fruitnut, that's good information. I bagged a couple dozen apples on my first-fruiting Fuji, and I can see that some of them dropped off overnite. We've had nothing but constant rain and overcast since the beginning of May.

And, of course, it's June. Since the Fuji was the first apple I thinned and bagged, I'm seeing that the dropped fruits are all as small as they were when I did it, failed to develop.

    Bookmark   June 6, 2013 at 11:03AM
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