Best tasting pawpaw varieties

shane11July 29, 2008

I would love to hear from others who have tasted different pawpaw varieties and find out what the favorites are? The best varieties I have tasted so far are overleese and 3 of Petersons varieties - shenandoah, susquehanna, and allegheny. I have not been too impressed with sunflower, wells, mitchell, mango, or prolific. Sunflower is pretty good but I have noted (at least with my lone tree) that some of its fruits can leave a slight bitter aftertaste which I am not too fond of. Some of its fruits are very good. Mango flavor is ok but texture too slimy/mushy.

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Scott F Smith(6B/7A MD)

I have only had Sunflower fruit and have observed the same bitter aftertaste; otherwise it is excellent. The ones you mention are the ones people most consistently mention as best. That plus an occasional mention of Taytwo, PA Golden, NC-1 and a few others.

Scott

    Bookmark   July 29, 2008 at 3:41PM
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shane11

Thanks for posting Scott. I am very glad to hear that you also have noted a bitter aftertaste in sunflower. I have wondered if it was my tree since no one else seemed to notice this with their sunflower fruits. I guess everyones taster is a little different. I have also noticed the same thing with prolific, some fruits are good, others will leave a little bitter aftertaste. Overleese will never have any off flavors or strong aftertaste and is a first rate variety in my opinion. Wells can be very good flavored but is small fruited and seedy. Mitchell does not have the same quality texture or flavor as overleese nor is it as large. I have also heard that NC-1, taytwo, and sweet alice are very good but my trees have yet to bare. I may get fruit on nc-1 next year, at least I am hoping.

    Bookmark   July 29, 2008 at 4:01PM
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gonebananas_gw

Many pawpaws have a slightly bitter aftertaste. Most of this is concentrated in the flesh right under the skin, so if you are scraping this off with spoon or teeth to eat you get it. I break pawpaws in half cross-ways (perpendicular to the long axis) and simply squeeze the contents (seeds and all) into my mouth, then spit put the seeds watermelon style. You'd have to squeeze again and hard to get the part with more aftertaste.

I think Peterson's and Mango are the best I've had, then maybe Overleese and Wells, compared to maybe a half-dozen other named ones. Some crosses I've made (Mango x Overleese) seem to have the aftertaste more in first fruit or maybe less ripe fruit, but they haven't been fruiting enough yet to tell with high confidence.

I'm getting tired of losing expensive grafted pawpaw after expensive grafted pawpaw (and crosses of these), all grown with considerable attention and trouble, all to some unknown disease. I will likely just play and experiment with survivors or locally derived plants from now on rather than buy more.

My experience with the Ky State University pawpaw researchers (three detailed emails with a question or two each, spread over a year and a half) have totaled zero responses. And this to their "write us with questions" email address and another such address for the main professor (in case the first was no longer valid) They are also suspiciously quiet about any progress on the pawpaw disease that killed their trial planting in the northwest. I'm wondering if that is what I have, given that I have received pawpaws from many different nurseries. Maybe pawpaw growing is in for some serious trouble. Admittedly, I haven't checked their site in a while, but I could tell even then that it had not been tended to in a good while.

    Bookmark   July 30, 2008 at 9:15AM
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shane11

I have one 'mango' planted and must say it is the fastest growing and most productive tree I have. Its fruits are also on the large size but I find their texture a little too soft for my liking though the flavor seems good. In my opinion it would be a great processing variety. Do you find your mango to be softer fleshed than others? I would bet a cross of it and overleese would be good. Keep me posted on that one. I tried 3 of Neals varieties last year and they were exceptional in every way. The best I have ever had!
Speaking of disease I have had a problem now and then where the tree looks just like it needs water. The leaves will have a limp look but water is not an issue in this case. This usually occurs on very young trees but they usually recover the following year. Others I have spoken with have not observed this problem, whatever it is.

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Scott F Smith(6B/7A MD)

Shane, I have noticed the same problem on newly planted trees, i.e. in their first year. My interpretation is the roots are not yet established well enough to feed the tree.

Gonebananas, I would like to hear about the symptoms of this disease you have so I can be on the lookout for it. My pawpaws have been extremely healthy once established. The major problem has been the limbs from the big tree above that occasionally fall on the pawpaws. The wood is very weak in comparison to other trees and they can get severely damaged.

Scott

    Bookmark   July 30, 2008 at 10:31AM
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lycheeluva(6/7)

Has Peterson sold any trees in the last couple of years. Every time I go to his website- no matter what time of year, it says that his trees are sold out.

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gonebananas_gw

Give me a day or two to look at all of them more closely and I'll write the symptoms.

I got two pawpaws from Peterson last April. He is still in business. Get your name on the waiting list. They REALLY are good pawpaws. I just can't keep them going after several years.

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shane11

Rumor has it that Peterson is going to turn over his trees to another nursery and let them do the propagating, selling, and shipping. As I said this is only a rumor but it would make perfect sense if it proves to be true. I have had very good luck with his variety shenandoah and expect to get a fruit or two next year. It has been very healthy and had several blooms this year. My rappahannock from him lived through 2 winters and then croaked for no apparent reason but I have heard from several that this variety is not what it was cracked up to be having many problems. The other 5 he introduced are supposedly much improved over this one. Nonetheless I am going to give it one more try.

    Bookmark   July 31, 2008 at 10:09AM
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bart1(6/7 Northern VA)

Well, it's been about 5 years since this thread was active and I was wondering if anyone has any new favorites in the Pawpaw world?

In "Growing Fruit Naturally" (2012), Lee Reich says his favorites are PA-Golden and SAA Zimmerman.

Has anyone tried any of those? What are your current favorites for taste?

Thanks!
Bart

    Bookmark   January 13, 2013 at 6:25PM
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Tony(Zone 5. Omaha, Nebraska)

Bart,

Jerry Lehman won both in taste and biggest pawpaw for 2012.

Tony

Here is a link that might be useful: Pawpaw Fest!

    Bookmark   January 14, 2013 at 11:45AM
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bonsaist(Z6/ Bethlehem, Pa)

That's great news about Jerry Lehman's varieties. I have seedlings of a cross he made of his two varieties. We should see in the next 6 years how great they will turn out to be.

Bass

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bart1(6/7 Northern VA)

Thanks Tony!

Do you or Bass or anyone else know where to get "cu 166-13"
paw paw trees?

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bonsaist(Z6/ Bethlehem, Pa)

I spoke with Jerry and said he will be releasing it under a name. I am not sure if I'm suppose to say what it is yet. He said this is the second year winning. I'm sure you will find MJ available soon.

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bennylafleur(6 E. Tn.)

Jerry's largest pawpaw in the Ohio contest was 275-48, large but not so flavorful. 166-13 won the taste contest, I tasted it a few years ago and it is definitely at the top of my list.

Benny

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Bradybb(wa8)

Benny,
Were some of those seeds sent to me 166-13?It may not matter though,because I think they were accidentally put together with the others by me. Brady

    Bookmark   January 21, 2013 at 10:48PM
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bart1(6/7 Northern VA)

Does anyone have any thoughts on the more common/available varieties?

Allegheny, Overleese, PA-Golden, Potomac, Rappahannock, Shenandoah, Sunflower, Susquehanna?

I'd like to get a few trees in the ground this spring so I may not be able to wait until 166-33 comes my way.

Are any of the above wonderful, must haves and/or should I avoid any of them?

Thanks!

    Bookmark   January 25, 2013 at 8:53AM
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charlieboring

I personally like the peterson varieties, Shenandoah, Susquehanna and Rappahannock in that order. I planted the first two.

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Tony(Zone 5. Omaha, Nebraska)

Bart1,

Some of these were previous test taste winners: Overleese (most often), Shenandoah,and Sunflower. Potomac and Susquehanna were the largest of Peterson pawpaws. Jerry Lehman VE-21 and CU 166-33 were the best of his 300 crosses. Like Bass said Jerry will release them soon under another name.

Tony

    Bookmark   January 25, 2013 at 10:04AM
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nickr102

Has anybody tasted the KSU-Atwood (also known as K8-2) varity. I can find lots of stuff on the internet about how productive it is, but almost nothing on how it taste compares to other pawpaws.

Thanks

    Bookmark   January 27, 2013 at 10:22AM
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Tony(Zone 5. Omaha, Nebraska)

Nick,

"KSU-ATWOOD TM A newly released variety from Kentucky State University that combines large size and high quality fruit with few seeds and a mango aftertaste. Heaviest producing variety."
If you want to try a early ripening pawpaw then Cliff England at nuttrees.net has one called "Summer Delight - Just an average size pawpaw of 8 to 12 ounces that absolutely tastes delicious, has a yellow tinted shin that is thick, and ships and stores well. The remarkable thing about this Pawpaw is that it ripens in the last week of July to the first week of August. It is not precocious and takes 4 to 5 years to come into production. Summer Delight has a smooth textured flesh, few seeds, and a melon after taste."

Tony

    Bookmark   January 27, 2013 at 10:59AM
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bennylafleur(6 E. Tn.)

Nick

I was at KSU a few years ago for a taste test. K8-2 came in at 7th place out of 9 varieties for the test. Wabash 1st, 3 was Susquehana, 4 was Sunflower. other places were row numbers at KSU, not named or released

Benny

    Bookmark   January 27, 2013 at 5:51PM
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shane11

I have tasted pa golden 1 and think it is a very good variety though its fruits are not usually very large. I would call them medium sized but I have never noted any bitter aftertaste with this one as long as they havent aged too much. I have never tasted zimmerman and I lost my tree of this one last year. I tasted rappahannock, shenandoah, and wabash this past year and they were all very good. Shenandoah is very similir to overleese and it may be more productive.

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plantlover13(5)

Hello. If i was to plant only 2 pawpaw varieties, what would you suggest?

thanks.

    Bookmark   June 19, 2013 at 12:49PM
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charlieboring

I had the same delima last fall. I only had room for two trees. I wanted two of the Peterson varieties and my final 3 were Shanandoah, Rapahannock and Susquehanna. I settled on Shanandoah and Susquehanna based upon their fruit size, number of seeds and flavor. I planted my trees in October and they are now leaved out and about two feet tall. I did not shade them and they seem to be doing fine.

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plantlover13(5)

I have heard good things about oliveese, i believe it is. I was thinking of getting one of that and a peterson variety. i have limited space, and really, only having one would be better, but there is the whole cross pollination issue. So, i have to find a way to it in two, but i can't deal with more than that.

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plantlover13(5)

Say, is it possible to plant two trees in one hole? they are clumping, right?

This post was edited by plantlover13 on Wed, Jun 19, 13 at 19:39

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Bradybb(wa8)

I have a Sunflower variety and heard they were self fertile.It is still young,only about three years and a little over three feet tall.
This year it had multiple flowers and I wanted to see for myself about the fertility.So I hand pollinated it,using it's own flowers and it set two clusters of about four fruit each.One group fell off and one remains. Brady

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shane11

I dont see any reason you could not plant 2 pawpaws in the same hole or even spaced a foot or two apart. If I were short on space that is exactly what I would do.

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plantlover13(5)

will planting two in a hole affect yield too much?

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Scott F Smith(6B/7A MD)

Two in a hole basically gives you one tree in the end, so yes you would get half the yield compared to spacing them far apart.

Overleese is the variety I think you are thinking of above, its as good as any Peterson variety.

Scott

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plantlover13(5)

so do the trees graft together?

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treebird101

I would have to agree that Overleese goes to the top for flavor.

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harbin_gw

What about Kentucky Champion? It is supposed to be the best tasting and earliest variety. Has anybody tasted it, yet?

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treebird101

I never tasted Kentucky Champion and I haven't ever heard it mentioned as the best or one of the best. I heard it was good from the man who grafts it but I can't make that assessment for my self.

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Tony(Zone 5. Omaha, Nebraska)

Just harvested some Mango pawpaws last night. I test for for ripeness by squeezing them a little bit for softness. They were very good. Sweet with tropical flavor and no aftertaste. Flesh was very light yellow and juicy around the seeds for easy removal. Excellent quality.

Tony

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gregkdc

I tasted pawpaws yesterday for the first time. I ordered a box form integration acres and they finally came. I think they were really good and I am happy I have a few trees in the ground even if it will take a few more years for them to produce.

About the flavor, the first thing that I noticed was how strong they tasted. I liked it but I could see how some people may not. I don't think they taste anything like bananas. This is the most frequently mentioned flavor and to me it just wasn't there. Maybe the texture and color are more banana like but not the flavor.
They do have a little mango as well as melon flavor, but to me they were closer to a cherimoya than any other fruit, but different.
If I had to describe the flavor of them I would say they taste kind of like how a dogtooth lily smells. That's a little wild flower that grows around the rocky mountains in the spring. I know that probably doesn't help anyone out, but that is the only comparison I can make.
Over all I would have to agree with Neal Peterson that they taste every bit as good as a peach or other popular fruit. On the other hand they are so different form other fruits with their shape, texture, seeds etc. that they are a great unique addition to the home orchard. I wish I had more Greg

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Tony(Zone 5. Omaha, Nebraska)

Greg,

Clean with seeds well with 1/10 solution of bleach and H2O. Place the seeds in a ziplock bag and put it in the frig. Next spring just plant the seeds in pots and place them in shaded area for a season then you will have a bunch of seedlings or use them as rootstocks to graft.

Tony

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treebird101

Has anyone been to the 2013 Ohio Pawpaw festival? I'm curious to see what pawpaws won this year in the contests. The festival is well over with but they don't seem to have their website updated yet with the results for 2013. Pawpaws are late to drop this year and there's not many of them. We had a very long cold spring so everything is about 3 weeks behind. I went and picked pawpaws from the sidewinder pawpaw patch 3 weeks ago which is late for it.

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treebird101

I went to check on the original "Halvin" pawpaw tree today to see if there was any fruit on the section of the tree I let grow out in hopes to taste the yummy fruit again. I couldn't believe it there was a ripe cluster of two hanging within reach. The fruits dropped into my hands when I touched them. You are looking at over two pounds of fruit here. The flavor was still outstanding! Sweet pineapple flavor with no bitter aftertaste.

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plantlover13(5)

Awesome!!!

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Tony(Zone 5. Omaha, Nebraska)

Treebird,

Congrats on those nice size Halvin paw paws. My Mango paw paws were excellent in taste but the fruits a little smaller then your Halvin. The Sunflower paw paws were larger at10-11oz and very good. The flesh was more yellow than the Mango. PersimmonBob sent me the woods from his wild pawpaw tree and the graft is growing very fast (24" this season). My Peterson's varieties (Shanandoah & Sequelhana) just formed flower buds on several branches and hopefully I can report on how they taste next fall. Jerry Lehman VE-21 with no flower buds yet. NC-1, Overleese, Louisiana native, and my own cross Sunman(Sunflower & Mango cross) are about 3 feet tall. I can't wait until they all produce so I can cross a bunch more.

Tony

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treebird101

I want to try Sunflower. It should fruit next year for me. 4 of my Peterson varieties fruited this year for the first time. I got to try Wabash, Potomac, Susquehanna, and Rappahannak. I'm not going to lie to you all, I had high expectations. They all pretty much seemed like an average pawpaw except for the Wabash. Potomac had a large fruit almost as big as Halvin but the flavor was average. Rapahannak gave me a small three cluster and it tasted the most average in flavor. I would put Wabash and Overlease at the top of the list of cultivars that I fruited here. Wabash has bright orange/yellow flesh and I really enjoy the flavor of Overlease though its size isn't that bad too. I hope to try Shenandoah, Allegheny, NC-1, Atwood,Sunflower, Summer Delight, and Prima 1216 within the next 5 years. I will keep you all posted.

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Scott F Smith(6B/7A MD)

This year Sunflower is my best, but Overleese is close. Its a bit less watery and more rich than Overleese. Rebeccas Gold is pretty mediocre in comparison, less flavor more watery. Its going to get topworked. NC-1 was another good one. My Peterson pawpaws are taking forever to fruit.

Scott

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treebird101

I wouldn't give up yet Scott. It took me about 4 years to see fruit. Of course that's with heavy watering during dry times. My sunflower had flowers on it the past two years but no fruit yet. I'm hoping next year will be the year. It is definitely a vigorous growing tree.

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creekweb(6,7)

I noticed vendors selling seedling pawpaw fruits - gathered from street trees - at a local farmers market for about $5/lb. There was moderate consumer interest despite the unappealing appearance of the fruit - small with dark spots. Samples were available and the vendors found that about 50% of those who tried the fruit liked it.

So far my favorite pawpaw this year was from a seedling tree. I didn't like that it was somewhat watery, but it did have the least off-flavors and bitterness, and I was able to eat the whole thing save the skin and seeds.My largest was from the variety NC1. Truth is I haven't tried half the varieties I've harvested this year - I think I'm pawpawed out for a while. But I did enjoy a low cal almond milk based pawpaw smoothee, which I found to be free of off-flavors. Sold some to a restaurant and do get the feeling that there's enough demand from this direction to unload this and future harvests.

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DennisHolland

Hello everybody!

my name is Dennis and I live in the Netherlands. I have vegetable garden, and I keep looking for exotic fruit to put in there. My avocado and tiny mango tree have to stay inside for the winter, but a pawpaw tree is cold hardy! I would really love to get my hands on some seeds from the
''mango'' variety, and maybe also another variety, for pollination? Is there anybody willing to send me some seeds by post? I would be really happy with that. I don't have a lot to trade, except maybe some grafting wood from the yellow soreli kiwifruit? It's about pencil thick.

Thanks,
Dennis

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gregkdc

Does anybody have any info about Jerry Lehman's pawpaws? I am interested in large, dark colored extra tasty flesh, but I am concerned about having a long enough summer to ripen them. Typically we get 150 to 180 frost free days with about 5000 growing degree days.

Last where do you get them I see England's has seeds and also scions for Maria's Joy. Is this a good tasting variety or did it win due to its size?

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bennylafleur(6 E. Tn.)

Greg
I tasted Maria's Joy several years ago, and to my taste buds it seemed like the best pawpaw I had ever eaten.

Benny

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gregkdc

Benny;
Thanks for the follow up I will keep what you said in mind when my seedling pawpaw gets big enough to graft I will buy some Maria's joy scions.

Does anybody know if Wabash ripens early, mid or late season? I want to avoid any really late varieties like Susquehanna as I don't know if they will ripen in time.

As a reference my growing season is about 20 days shorter then the orchard at KSU with 400 less GDD.
I just found out that a local nursery carries Prolific and Rebecca's Gold. Are they worth it or should I plant a better variety? If these trees are bigger then mail order varieties and already adapted to my climate, hard water etc. they are potential contenders for the spot in my yard.
I have space for only one more tree and right now I have narrowed my list down to NC-1, Shenandoah, Allegheny or Wabash. My wife says to go with Allegheny for flavor and productivity but I wanted larger less seedy fruit. Also my family tended to like the stronger flavored pawpaws that we tasted last year. Any recommendations?

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treebird101

I would avoid prolific. I never tried Rebecca's gold. Prolific has a bitter aftertaste and is quite seedy. I top worked mine after the second year it produced fruit. Halvin had less seed than my Susquehanna but this was the first year Susquehanna produced for me. My Susquehanna was hand pollinated by Halvin and those seeds went into the ground last fall. We'll see if we get some sprouts : )

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shane11

Wabash is an early to mid season ripening variety in my NC climate. Prolific nor Rebeccas gold are near as good as any of Petersons varieties in my opinion. Also sunflower, NC-1, and overleese are much better. Allegheny is early ripening and productive but the fruits are small to medium sized. Size of fruits may increase with the age of the tree I dont know. My allegheny is still fairly young. They are very good tasting. Rappahannock really impressed me last year being very productive and with medium to large fruits and excellent flavor. It is also an early ripening variety. Overleese and shenandoah are fairly early ripening. Sunflower and prolific are late ripening for me.

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gregkdc

Thanks for the info I like to see what people really think without all of the marketing hype you get from the retailers. Also information about ripening times is a huge bonus because it is so hard to find it on the web. With so many recommendations I might just have to flip a coin, but right now I am leaning toward Wabash.

This post was edited by gregkdc1 on Tue, Feb 25, 14 at 23:08

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Landrey

Has anyone tried the Cambells no 1 variety from Burnt Ridge nursery?

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deedles(5)

I've ordered mango, sunflower and something just called 'paw paw' from Stark bros. Can anyone tell me how big these trees end up being when mature? Very excited to try some fruit someday. Thanks.

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Tony(Zone 5. Omaha, Nebraska)

Deedles.

I have a 8 yrs old Mango paw paw from Starkbros about 13 feet tall. Very tasty and light yellow flesh.

Tony

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AgroCoders(6)

I first encountered PawPaws growing wild last September in Lincoln County, Kentucky so I picked a few. I thought they were like American Chestnut or Butternuts almost extinct for one reason or another until I found those last September.

Afterwards I asked my mom as her family ate them when she was a kid and they ate them the way I did, picked off the tree and the white flesh has a clean taste but only very faintly of bananas. I since found that most people like them as soft and mushy and deep orange and those have a mango like taste. Since I don't like mangos or papayas I'll get the ones off the trees so they taste more like watered down bananas.

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ben773(5a)

Hi Treebird:
How does Halvin compare in terms of ripening order.
Is it a mid ripening pawpaw as compared to the other cultivars you fruited? I'm in Illinois, near the Illinois-Wisconsin border about 1 mile from Lake Michigan.
Last year, my first Shenandoah ripened in mid-October and the last one was around late October. My first Sunflower fruit ripened around late October and the last one ripened during mid November. Overleese was between the two. So, I'm looking for early to mid ripening varieties. Summer Delight seems to be a good one to have here. My other varieties, KSU-Atwood, Mango, NC-1, Susquehanna are not fruit bearing size yet. Thanks.
Ben
Beach Park, IL

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treebird101

Well Ben, The Halvin pawpaw is from the most northern pawpaw growing natural range but I haven't really paid much attention to ripening in comparison to others here. This weekend I'm going foraging in a new area of Missouri where Lewis and Clark thrived on pawpaws near the Missouri river. The forest there looks VERY promising! Hopefully I can make some great discoveries. Historically the Native Americans relished pawpaws in this area so there should be some great genetic potential. More pictures are coming hopefully soon.

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persimmonbob(6b)

This is a bad year for my paw-paw's,because of the drought. Fruits are small and not very good tasting.The good new's is that the wild one i allways go to in september(between 5-11 sept.) are allways better than my nursery bought tree's by a wide margin.One fruit left!!!

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persimmonbob(6b)

This is a bad year for my paw-paw's,because of the drought. Fruits are small and not very good tasting.The good new's is that the wild one i allways go to in september(between 5-11 sept.) are allways better than my nursery bought tree's by a wide margin.One fruit left!!!

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treebird101

That's a bummer Bob. This year was actually one of the wettest here in Southwest Iowa but the majority of the rain came after the actual growing part part of the season. Is that fruit you're gathering this year from the big one you posted a picture of last year? I might need a few sticks of scion this spring from you. I'm excited to go on a forage tomorrow! Finally the pawpaws are ready!

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persimmonbob(6b)

Treebird, that is correct.There are several area's i go to,but i quit going there. Most of them taste the same.The one in question are close to home less than a mile.Paw-paw's here are pretty much done. Next are my asian persimmon,they start at the end of the month into December.
Good luck,Bob.

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Bradybb(wa8)

persimmonbob,
Is there any chance of getting a few seeds of your wild one? Brady

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Tony(Zone 5. Omaha, Nebraska)

PersimmonBob, Treebird, and all.

I got some good quality paw paws this year but the production was down due to the harsh winter of -15F. Here are some photos of them. Mango paw paw.

Tony

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Tony(Zone 5. Omaha, Nebraska)

Jerry Lehman VE-21

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Tony(Zone 5. Omaha, Nebraska)

Peterson's Shenandoah paw paw

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Bradybb(wa8)

Tony,
When did your trees first start producing,about how tall were they?Is it available to get a picture of a whole tree?Nice looking fruit.Thanks,Brady

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Tony(Zone 5. Omaha, Nebraska)

Brady

The Mango paw paw is about 8 yrs old. Jerry Lehman VE -21 I grafted to the mango about 4 yrs ago. The Shenandoah and Susquehanna I grafted to a 2 years old seedlings about 4 yrs ago

Mango paw paw photo

Tony

This post was edited by tonytran on Sat, Sep 27, 14 at 15:17

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Tony(Zone 5. Omaha, Nebraska)

The Shenandoah is on the left and the Susquehanna is on the right. They both are 5 1/2 feet tall.

Tony

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persimmonbob(6b)

Brady, sure i send you seeds just let me know.

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Tony(Zone 5. Omaha, Nebraska)

PersimmonBob

Here is your wild paw paw scion I grafted on a 2 years old Mango seedling 2 years ago.

Tony

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treebird101

Very Nice Tony! Is there any way I could get some Susquehanna and Shenandoah seed from you? The original Halvin tree is dead as of this year but the legacy lives on through many friends and myself who've grafted it. I have no fruits here at home this year because of the extreme cold weather and I even lost a few trees here. Here is our bounty from the wild today. Some nice pawpaws but nothing in comparison to Halvin. Don't mind the old spice deodorant its there for size comparison.

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treebird101

Here's what's left of the Halvin pawpaw tree. This was a biggun.

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treebird101

The rings say it all. This tree had a good long life for a pawpaw.

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charlieboring

I have a Shenandoah and a Susquehanna that are two years old and about three feet tall. They are beautiful trees with dark green leaves. Whe should I expect fruit?

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Tony(Zone 5. Omaha, Nebraska)

Treebird I will email you later.

Charlie

The Shenandoah fruited for the first time after four years of being grafted. They started to flowers around five feet tall. The Susquehanna flowers all dropped so no fruits on it this year.

Tony

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gregkdc

You guys are so lucky, I can't wait until my trees are old enough to fruit. Buying them online is expensive but it is the only way I can get them.

P.S keep the pawpaw porn coming!

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Bradybb(wa8)

Tony,
Those are nice looking trees and fruit.Thanks for posting.

Thanks persimmonbob,I'll send an email.

That was a big tree,maybe 25-30 years?I wonder what age the Kentucky Champion is? Brady

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milehighgirl(CO USDA 5B/Sunset 2B)

Treebird,

Are you the one that found and shared the Halvin originally?

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treebird101

Yes I am milehighgirl. I know all there is to know about the tree if you have any questions.

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milehighgirl(CO USDA 5B/Sunset 2B)

I'd like to get some pawpaw seeds from someone. I am tired of buying expensive Peterson pawpaw that don't survive but a year. If anyone has seeds from early ripening cultivars I'd really appreciate some. Send me a PM.

Maybe once I learn what they need from me in my climate I will invest again.

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treebird101

Yeah, I had several die back this past winter. At one point I thought the small potted pawpaw trees would do better but now as time goes on I see that the bareroot pawpaws from Nolin river are Double the size of the little RPM trees from Forrest Keeling. Seeds shouldn't be hard to come by. If you've ever split open a pawpaw there are plenty.

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milehighgirl(CO USDA 5B/Sunset 2B)

treebird, I've never even seen a pawpaw fruit. The last ones I bought were from Forrest Keeling and I was very disappointed. They did well in the summer but didn't survive the winter even garaged. Tiny little things.

I guess I am driven by curiosity.

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gregkdc

Milehighgirl;
If you are truly done with grafted varieties I would recommend buying some fruit from integration acres. I think they are still selling them and this way you will get a chance to see if you like them. Afterwords if you do like them then don't let the seeds dry out, stratify them in your crisper for 100 days and plant them.
I started some last year and had about a 90% germination rate. I have found a home for all of them and I'm waiting till their big enough to transplant.
One thing that I am surprised about is some of them are growing fairly fast while others are really slow. I think it speaks to the fact the fast ones are more adapted to my environment.

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charlieboring

Milehighgirl - I have two paw paw seedlings in pots that I germinted this spring. I have intended to trade them for something I need, such as jujube cuttings. By chance, do you grow jujubes?

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treebird101

Yeah, lately I've been very disappointed with Forrest Keeling trees. They weren't always as small as they are now. You can't go wrong with Nolin River Nursery. Just make sure you water liberally the first two years. Going the seed route is not a bad idea but I would get your seed from a known cultivar. I think Kentucky state University can hook you up. I can see a burst of great new pawpaw cultivars showing up in the future because of avid seed planters. Not all your wild pawpaws are superior in quality, believe me. So definitely get seed from a reliable source of known cultivars.

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Zach-in-NC

Largely inspired by this thread (I'm a long-time lurker), I've just recently ordered a trio of pawpaws to plant (along with a trio of American persimmons). I've just ordered seedlings (from Nativ Nurseries), but I'm thinking it might behoove me to keep a couple of good sites available for an Overleese and either a Susquehanna or a Shenandoah from Nolin's. I can't tell from the website if they're grafted or from seed, but I'm not sure if that's something I need concern myself with. I don't have much space, and have at least 6 more trees I'd like to plant on our property; are those two my best bets as far as named cultivars go for eating?

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milehighgirl(CO USDA 5B/Sunset 2B)

Zach,

Nolin's has grafted pawpaw.

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creekweb(6,7)

Pawpaws ripening very late this year, I've only had a few ready so far. The Rebecca Gold were a good size and unblemished appearance. Flavor was okay, a bit watery with relatively subdued off-flavors. I offered some to my kids, but no takers. This is telling as these kids are true fruit lovers, seeking fruits of all sorts, even things that I shy away from like elderberries and red currants.

Production way down this year. Unfortunately, I didn't arrange a control to compare to but I believe the reason is that I neither hand pollinated or enhanced natural pollination this year as I usually do. I have one tree that's not within 30 feet of another that should have set 20 pounds of fruit and instead has 2 total fruits. It's an NC1 - flavor was awful, but usually NC1 is better than that.

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milehighgirl(CO USDA 5B/Sunset 2B)

gregkdc1,

I ordered a few pounds of pawpaw. They say demand might be too high to fill all orders this year so we will see what happens. I will be able to plant the seeds then at least.

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gregkdc

milehighgirl
I ordered a few pounds too, but I haven't received them yet. Let us know if you get some or not I was planning on sprouting more seedlings if they don't run out. With a few pounds you should be able to get quite a few trees and would think that at least a few of them should work. I don't know what variety of pawpaw they grow but I thought they tasted pretty good and I didn't notice any bitter taste to them like so many people have had with other pawpaw varieties.

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Tony(Zone 5. Omaha, Nebraska)

If you have a hard time buying paw paw fruits, you can try to contact Rich at Wagon Wheel Orchard in KS. He had several acres of paw paws. See the link below.

Tony

Here is a link that might be useful: Wagon Wheel Orchard

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milehighgirl(CO USDA 5B/Sunset 2B)

Tony,

I emailed them but they don't ship.

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Tony(Zone 5. Omaha, Nebraska)

That's too bad that Rich won't ship them out. As I recalled he change very little per pound of paw paw. Mile High G, maybe you can call his phone and ask him to ship out in one of those flat rate box. He is very easy to work with. I swap many scion woods with him in the past few years.

Tony

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milehighgirl(CO USDA 5B/Sunset 2B)

I just got a shipment confirmation from Integration Acres. Guess I'll find out soon if I like pawpaws:)

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franktank232(z5 WI)

Milehigh-

Report back. I smelled some overripe paw paws one year when i was in Madison (they grow them at Olbrich) and it smelled like death! They were mushy and obviously been laying there for some time so not something to go on. I think the trees are beautiful ...just the foilage and they have that nice Christmas tree shape to them... I might order one or two and try them again (the rabbits ate my last one).

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milehighgirl(CO USDA 5B/Sunset 2B)

Today I tasted my very first pawpaw. I was delighted and so was the rest of my family. It's funny to see someone taste something for the very first time; they paused for a moment to let the flavor set in and then their eyes got big and a smile went over their faces. "Wow, that's good!"

The ones I received were only about 4.5 oz and the seeds were quite large. But at least I know if plant the seeds I will enjoy the fruit. Maybe if I can get them to have good tap roots they will have better success here.

My husband grew up with cherimoyas and he said they tasted very much like a cherimoya but the texture is much softer.

Tonight the kitchen smells like exotic fruit. Should they be refrigerated?

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Tony(Zone 5. Omaha, Nebraska)

MG,

You can keep them a little longer in the fridge. They will become bitter if turn completely brown. I am glad that you and your family enjoyed them.

Tony

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Tony(Zone 5. Omaha, Nebraska)

Just opened a Jerry Lehman VE -21 paw paw. Creamy yellowish flesh, sweet, delightful Flavor with no bitterness or aftertaste.

Tony

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milehighgirl(CO USDA 5B/Sunset 2B)

Tony,

The size of your fruit and the number of seeds looks very much like the ones I got.

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lkz5ia

pawpaws are kind of like peaches for me, they are marginally hardy where I am at, and hit and miss for production. the last year I had pawpaw fruit was 2008 from unselected seedling, so taste would not be as good as those selected cultivars, but the fruit is soft and seedy, so seems more appealing for wildlife. Last winter was the worse in decades, so now all my young grafted trees are dead and any older seedling trees were nearly killed to the ground. I guess the positive is a bunch of suckers are coming up everywhere lately. I might need to find good southern microclimates and hope that helps. I like the idea of pawpaw fruit for the wildlife.

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Fascist_Nation(9b)

I love this pawpaw thread even though we will likely never have a cultivar that will survive and fruit in Phoenix.

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gregkdc

Milehighgirl
I got my order in yesterday and the size of mine are about the same as you have indicated. I am glad you guys liked them you never know how people will react to something new. I have had a few people try them and some of them were repulsed by their intense flavor. For my family it seems the more we eat them the more we like them. I don't know if I can wait for my trees to start producing. :)

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milehighgirl(CO USDA 5B/Sunset 2B)

One of the pawpaw I tasted was superior to the others; it was yellow outside with a creamier colored flesh and a slight pineapple aftertaste. Anyone have an idea what it may be?

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Tony(Zone 5. Omaha, Nebraska)

MG,

It is very difficult to guess. If you like that fruit then plant the seeds. Most paw paw seeds come very close the their parents.

Tony

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milehighgirl(CO USDA 5B/Sunset 2B)

Okay, I saved these separately so I will plant them.

Next question(s): How thoroughly should the seeds be cleaned? I have heard they should be stored in a baggie in the fridge for 100 days, should there be a barely moist paper towel in there? What should the soil temperature be before planting? How deep and how far apart should they be planted?

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Tony(Zone 5. Omaha, Nebraska)

MG,

I usually wash the seeds with dish washing soap real well with the green scrub pad to prevent mold. Place the seeds in ziplock bag with a moist paper towel roll up in a ball to give the bag some moisture. Store the seeds in the fridge until Spring then plant them. I also check the moist paper towel every month for mold. I plant my seeds in pots about 1 1/2 inch deep. I can shade them the first year better this way and I can also overwinter them in the garage the first season then graft them after the second year or let them grow as seedlings.

Tony

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Bradybb(wa8)

I put the seeds and some damp peat moss in a baggie and then leave it in the bottom crisper of the refrigerator for about three months at a temperature between 35-40F.
Then they are put in a mix,about an inch down,made of half perlite and peat moss,in two liter plastic drink bottles,with their tops cut off.These go inside a Rubbermade type container with bottom heat or a heat blanket wrapped around the tub,with a thermostat to keep the temp about 80F.I like to get a head start this way and they come up in about four to five weeks.They can stay in these bottles for over two years.
If they are going to be planted in the ground,probably about eight to ten feet apart should work.The ideal pH should be 5.5-7. Brady

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bennylafleur(6 E. Tn.)

Tony, my experience of tasting fruit from pawpaw seedlings at Jerry Lehman's orchard is that most do not come close to the fruit produced by the parents. Going by memory, I would guess that about 1 out of 5 seedlings of named crosses is worth eating. This is based on going down the row, tasting each tree.

Benny

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Tony(Zone 5. Omaha, Nebraska)

Hi Benny,

Glad you chime in. I did an experiment several years back by growing a Mango pawpaw seedling and the second year I grafted a scionwood from the seedling back to the parent tree for faster fruiting and for pollination purpose. Three years later the graft branch fruited and tasted pretty close to the parent but not identical. If you plant a seed from a superior variety then good genetic will pass on to the seedling. For example, the Shenandoah is the seedling of Overleese and I think it tastes as good or better. The only way I can get same identical tree is to graft the same wood. If I have the choice I would take grafting over planting a seed.

Tony

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gregkdc

last year I washed my seeds with a mild bleach solution, rinsed and placed them in a ziplock baggy along with a damp paper towel. These went into the crisper for 100 days and I would re-wash the seeds and use a new baggy/paper towel anytime it looked like mold was starting to grow. After 100 days they were started indoors in seed starting mix about 1" deep and placed by a window. I had around 85-90% germination rate and moved them outside under my apple tree after the last chance of frost was gone.

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milehighgirl(CO USDA 5B/Sunset 2B)

I decided to cover all my bases, so to speak, so I went ahead and ordered Allegheny and Shenandoah from Nolin River. I plan to start seedlings too. If the trees survive then I have succeeded in what I want, and if they don't ,hopefully I can get the seedlings to take. I have space on the North side of my house that gets only early morning sun that I have reserved for them.

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gregkdc

milehighgirl
Sounds like a good plan. Last year the pawpaws I got from integration acres seemed like they were bigger, tasted better and a were a little less seedy, I suspect they were named cultivars.
Don't get me wrong I really liked the ones we got this year, but if you could have better why not? I have a suspicion that the ones I got this year may have been collected in the wild. Their website says they have both wild and cultivated pawpaws but it doesn't indicate how they are distributed or who gets what. I got my order the same time you did by the way you describe them it sounds like the came from the same batch. So if I'm right your Shenandoah and Allegheny will be awesome! Not to mention should come into production a few years earlier. Good luck

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Tony(Zone 5. Omaha, Nebraska)

Peterson Shenandoah finally ripped here in zone 5 Tasted as good as advertised. Sweet and creamy with 6 seeds. Great tropical flavors. I will cross this with the Mango paw paw next spring. The offsprings should be excellent.

Tony

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gregkdc

Tony that looks very tasty! Do you have a favorite with all of the varieties you have tried?

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franktank232(z5 WI)

tony-

Did you have any winter damage on your paw paws?

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Tony(Zone 5. Omaha, Nebraska)

Greg

I like Overleese, Lehman VE -21, Shenandoah, and Mango. They all are very good.

Frank
The temp gotten down to -15F. My paw paw trees had no damage but set less fruits. Btw these were older trees. The youngest one was 4 yrs old.

Tony

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franktank232(z5 WI)

I think i'm going order a few and give it a try.

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skyjs(z8 OR, USA)

I grow Wells and Sunflower because they are the only two that have been shown to be low in the potentially harmful chemical in paw paws.
John S
PDX OR

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swvirginiadave(z6 VA)

Dr. Kirk Pomper of the Paw Paw Foundation last year at a Third Thursday seminar on paw paw culture mentioned that they were breeding some paw paws low in annonaceous acetogenins. When I asked him why, he asked if I was worried (I wasn't)) and indicated that they wanted to have paw paw varieties in case it should ever become an issue of concern. For a short summary of the topic see the following web page of the Paw Paw foundation:

http://www.pawpaw.kysu.edu/PDF/AcetoUpdate3.pdf

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milehighgirl(CO USDA 5B/Sunset 2B)

Anyone ever get itchy after eating pawpaw? I hope I'm not allergic.

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Matt_z6b-7a_Maryland

This thread is great. I just wanted to share my two cents:

Allegheny pawpaw is my hands-down favorite.

Allegheny's flesh can obtain more of a rich orange color (rather than a yellow or cream color) and can achieve great sweetness and flavor with less of the cloying funkiness other varieties sometimes exhibit. The orange interior looks more like the inside of an Altufo Mango (aka the yummy little "Champagne Mangos" that Wegmans & Costco ship up from Mexico every winter).

Other good pawpaws I've tried are:

PA Golden- ok
Potomac- good
Shenandoah- light color; mild banana flavor; good

Taytoo- I did NOT like. kinda funky.

Here's a video I've found from another pawpaw enthusiast out in Calif which I think is well-done & entertaining:

Here is a link that might be useful: Video Link Here

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Bradybb(wa8)

Matt,
I was at Bill's house last week and got the last remaining fruit on his trees,about a dozen.They are very good flavor,the yellow/orange fleshed ones anyway.There were a few that were almost white inside and still too hard to eat.Bill said the trees were a mix of Corwin Davis and Ray Jones(a local San Jose grower's)seeds.I'm going to be growing some plants from them.
I'd like to try the Allegheny.It's suppose to be an early ripening variety.Thanks for your report. Brady

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Matt_z6b-7a_Maryland

Hi Brady,

Bill sounds like a great friend to have! His vids are well-done, and I enjoy watching them.

re Allegheny via mail order:

BurntRidge (Wa), EdibleLscaping (Va), & OneGreenWorld (Or) have been known to stock it in recent years.

I was not aware of its earliness. What a bonus! I hate waiting all year until Aug/Sept for pawpaw season to begin. The first pawpaws of the season always seem to provide the most excitement.

I'm strapped for cash right now. Otherwise, I'd order an Allegheny today.

Here's a rare cluster of 8 fruits I found last fall growing together along the Potomac River-- pic attached.

Cheers,
-Matt

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gregkdc

I saw that England's is all out of scion wood this year and was wondering if anybody knows where I could buy some? I am looking for something really large and tasty like Maria's Joy or one of the other recent winners at the pawpaw festival? I plan on crossing this one with Wabash.

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Bradybb(wa8)

Burnt Ridge Nursery may have some.They do offer Pawpaws and scion wood of different trees sold on their website.They need to be contacted for more information. Brady

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bear_with_me(8 Pacific NW)

I've read this topic thread several times. Reading again, it convinced me to order another pawpaw tree. This time I ordered the variety "Mango" from Raintree. My reason for that choice was I am not young and I want to think maybe I will get a chance to taste fruit, from the tree I planted. Mango is described as very fast growing. I have not read fast growth translates to fruiting younger. I guess we'll see.

I am in Pacific NW where the summers are cool and not as long. I currently have a 5 ft tall "NC-1", a 4 ft tall "Sunflower", and a 18 inch tall "Rebecca's Gold". I planted all of them summer 2012. Given the info here, maybe I should graft something better tasting onto the Rebecca's Gold. I also read that one may need a longer summer than we have here, to ripen fruit. Truth is, it would not have to be the best taste for me, if it just fruits young, has fruit that ripens here, and maybe has a fair yield in a couple more years.

I have a question about grafting. Maybe it was answered before. I am pretty good now with whip-and-tongue grafting on pears and apples, and T-budding on stone fruits. I think I read T-budding doesn't work so well for pawpaws. Is whip-and-tongue the way to go?

Very nice conversation here, even if I am a late comer to it. Interesting reading.

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Tony(Zone 5. Omaha, Nebraska)

I have very good success with bark, wedge, and W&T. Paw paw is not hard to take. If you want your graft to fruit sooner then find the scion woods with flower buds on them. The graft will fruit in the 2nd year. Just make sure you support the new graft with a stake or the weight of the fruit will break the graft.

Tony

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forestandfarm

I'm starting a few from seed. They are from 250x39. They are amazingly slow. Some are just starting to leaf out.

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Bradybb(wa8)

These are from seed that a Tennessee grower sent to me.They have bottom heat and two small lamps inside a Rubbermade tub.It's been about two months since they were planted. Brady

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forestandfarm

Wow! I must be doing something wrong. Mine were planted almost exactly 2 months ago and they have bottom heat as well. They are not even close to yours.

Did you germinate your seeds first? I planted mine directly from cold stratification so I'm sure they sat for a while before they germinated.

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Bradybb(wa8)

Do I germinate the seeds first?Does that mean putting them on a wet paper towel and waiting for some growth.No,they are stratified for about three months and then planted.I was busy and forgot about these,so they sat in the refrigerator for over a year and still had 100% of them sprouting.I try to keep the inside container temperature 75F-85F. Brady

    Bookmark   December 18, 2014 at 11:38AM
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charlieboring

I planted about 10 paw paw seeds in pots in January 2014. The pots were kept under lights but no heat. All seeds but 1 germinated. Germination took from 3 to 4 months. I gave up on two pots and dug down and found that these seeds had also germinated. So it takes from 2-4 months for germination.

    Bookmark   December 18, 2014 at 12:08PM
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forestandfarm

Well, that must be the difference. I noticed the first stem loops about a month in. Right now, all of my 250x39 (19 of them) have stem loops showing. A couple weeks later I planted 10 seeds I got from KSU and 7 are showing stem loops.

Given the germination difference, I'd guess your picture is what mine will look like about a month from now.

    Bookmark   December 18, 2014 at 6:39PM
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