new to grafting !!!

sunsetparkerJuly 17, 2014

i have a 1 and half year old tree from a hachiya persimmon seed, and i want it to be my rootstock for my fuyu scion.
what grafting method is best for it to survive ? should i do two grafts so even 1 dies, i would still have 1 left, or I can only do 1 graft at a time ?

and one more question:

i watched a video on youtube, and there's a farmer in Taiwan emphasized that grafting also catalyzes aging of the plant, and he did many experiments on seedlings that he cut the tip off the young tree, and removed the middle part, and he used the lower part as rootstock and grafted the tip onto it, the results came out that the grafted plant bears flowers the next year.
my question is, is that really possible ? has anyone tried this before ?

here is the link, but it's in chinese:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ykM62V4nKk

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Tony(Zone 5. Omaha, Nebraska)

I like bark graft for larger persimmon rootstock and wedge graft for smaller persimmon rootstock. If you decided to use Kaki rootstock then the persimmon tree won't be as winter hardy as a native persimmon rootstock. After care is important, make sure yoiu rub off all the new growths below the graft union to ensure all the energy goes toward the grafted tree.

Tony

    Bookmark   July 18, 2014 at 2:09PM
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sunsetparker

Tony:

thank you for the advice, and do you know what happens when you graft the scion to the same tree(remove the middle part), does it accelerate the plant to bear flowers and fruit ?

    Bookmark   July 18, 2014 at 4:38PM
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Tony(Zone 5. Omaha, Nebraska)

Sunset,

I did quite a few American persimmon crosses. I planted the seeds and let them grow for one season. The following March, I harvested the scion woods or as you mentioned from above, "the tip" portion of the young tree and grafted to another larger root stock or the same root stock if you like. But I prefer larger rootstock for more vigorous growth. These trees will bear persimmon fruits in 3-4 years instead of 7 years for the seedlings to bear fruits. Most of breeders do this method to save time. If the cross turn out to be bad then they just top work them and the process continue until they achieve the desire fruit. I hope this will help you.

Tony

    Bookmark   July 18, 2014 at 5:16PM
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sunsetparker

Tonytran:

So it's better to get the scion from a tree that had already produced fruit, and it should bear fruits much faster then ?

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 1:31PM
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Tony(Zone 5. Omaha, Nebraska)

Sunset,

On occasions, I had few grafts flower right away. I usually removed them and let the grafts grow. Sometimes, the weight of the fruits will break the new graft.

Tony

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 4:28PM
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sunsetparker

Tony:

so i think i might want to try to graft the tip on the the base, and the middle part onto another tree, and see what happens.

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 11:18PM
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