Is this over cropped??

Dan.NYAugust 23, 2013

Attached is an image of my empire apple tree. Does this look overcropped to everyone? Fruit are small. I guess there is a chance they will get larger but feels to me like they should be further along.

This is an empire apple planted 2007 supposed to be on M26. The tree is large, semi dwarf to me. About 15 ft. Trunk is good size around. Lower 3-4ft are nothing but solid trunk, no branches. This is different than any other fruit tree I have.

Thanks for input.

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fruitnut Z7 4500ft SW TX

It doesn't look as over loaded as some I've seen. But some of those smaller apples could have been taken off in early summer. At least take off the apples right next to each other, not now but next year.

The grass looks pretty dry and close by. Could dry weather and competition with the grass be affecting apple size?

    Bookmark   August 23, 2013 at 3:15PM
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mrsg47(7)

Your Empire is at the same stage as my Enterprise. They look identical. The tree looks fine, but I too would thin a bit more for larger apples. Mine oct. apples are just starting to plump up! Mrs. G

    Bookmark   August 23, 2013 at 4:43PM
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ltilton

I'm seriously thinking of taking the fruits off my Fuji. They're not sizing up at all, compared to the Enterprise which ripens at the same time, and the tree just doesn't look as healthy as I'd like. I was never totally sure about letting it fruit this year, and now I think it was a mistake. I've thinned it to about a dozen fruits, but now I think they all should go.

Wondering if, this late, it'll help the tree to do this.

    Bookmark   August 24, 2013 at 8:44AM
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mrsg47(7)

Itilton how old i your Fuji?

    Bookmark   August 24, 2013 at 9:30AM
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ltilton

This is its third year in the ground here.

When it came, it was flowering, but I didn't let it set fruit and last year it didn't set any. This year, it set a lot but I thinned it to about 2 dozen, then thinned it again later. There are about a dozen fruits left.

    Bookmark   August 24, 2013 at 11:06AM
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fruitnut Z7 4500ft SW TX

ltilton:

A dozen apples shouldn't stress your tree and removing them this late probably won't make any difference, certainly not in next years bloom. They still have two months to make a decent apple.

    Bookmark   August 24, 2013 at 12:02PM
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mrsg47(7)

I'm with Fruitnut. Leave them on. That is not a lot of apples. I have a Mott's Pink that is a very young three year old, and I left on three apples this spring. They'll be fine. Its the apple like my Enterprise that is finally producing only 12 apples seven years later! Mrs. G

    Bookmark   August 24, 2013 at 12:48PM
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jas4141(Zone 5)

Beautiful tree and fruit.

    Bookmark   August 26, 2013 at 9:50AM
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Dan.NY

Dry weather is not an issue where I am. This year has been almost perfect. Rain every so often in reasonable amounts. Temp hot. Though the last two weeks have been a bit dryer and a bit cooler.

The grass is very close. I have kept it down in the immediate area, but not further out.

    Bookmark   August 26, 2013 at 2:08PM
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ltilton

The current issue of the IL fruit & vegetable newsletter reports growers concerned about late apple drop with the hot/dry weather we're getting now.

None of mine are dropping yet, but I may go out with the hose.

    Bookmark   August 26, 2013 at 2:52PM
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