Help Id-ing an Asian Persimmon..

queenbee_1(7)October 1, 2012

I have an Asian persimmon tree, three yrs old, was sold to me as a Fuyu... This yr, the tree is LOADED with huge, beautiful, orangish/red, cone shaped fruit. They are not quite ripe, so I have no idea if they are astringent or not. Could this possible be a Fuyu or a Jiro? Those are the only two my nursery guy is suppose to carry... Thank you for any suggestions/names/ideas!

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fruitnut Z7 4500ft SW TX

Just Fruits and Exotics has some nice pictures.

Here is a link that might be useful: persimmon pictures

    Bookmark   October 1, 2012 at 11:13PM
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alexander3_gw(6 Pennsylvania)

Fuyu and Jiro have flat bottomed fruit, not cone shaped. Hachiya are cone shaped, and quite large, and common in the trade. They are astringent.

    Bookmark   October 1, 2012 at 11:45PM
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queenbee_1(7)

Finally broke down and called the nursery where I purchased the tree. Took one over to him and we figured out that it is a Tanenashi! He called the place he buys his seedling trees from and was surprised that they suggested this var. since they have never 'had' it on their lot. It is definitely astringent, It's average is about 6" long.. It was suggested that I pick the fruit when they are orange/red and put each one in a freezer bag. Then when I remove them they will be sweet but very mushie.. Ok for cooking and eating with a spoon... Has anyone used this system??

I guess I will be buying another tree...

    Bookmark   October 2, 2012 at 12:08PM
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bennylafleur(6 E. Tn.)

Queenbee

If the fruit is astringent, red, and excellent flavor, then it is probably Hachiya.

If it is the worst kaki you have ever tasted, then it is probably Tanenashi.

Benny

    Bookmark   October 2, 2012 at 1:47PM
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queenbee_1(7)

Thanks Benny.. I will be able to tell by Friday. The information I have read says it's very sweet..

    Bookmark   October 2, 2012 at 3:11PM
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queenbee_1(7)

Well, my persimmons are picked and I have placed them into the freezer--one to a qt. zip-lock bags.. Two were perfectly ripe and they are delicious. They are very sweet but pudding like... Nothing like the Fuyu, I thought I had purchased... There were 59 huge fruits on this (in the ground 2yr)tree... I will be purchasing another Fuyu (hopefully) persimmon, in hopes I will have one to eat fresh--- WITHOUT a spoon. I have decided this is a Hachyia.. Thank you for your help...

    Bookmark   November 16, 2012 at 12:16AM
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cousinfloyd

I'm sure someone else can confirm this or correct me, but I believe slightly under-ripe astringent kakis like you describe are just what you want for dehydrating, and that dehydrating removes the astringency. I don't suppose it would work out of the freezer, because they'd need to still be firm enough to slice, but at least it might be something you can do next year. The one thing I do know is that I received some dehydrated Asian persimmons as a gift from a friend once and they were an absolutely top notch dried fruit, really, really good. I haven't had dried papaya in years, but that's what it reminded me of.

    Bookmark   November 16, 2012 at 6:23AM
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fruitcraz

cousinfloyd, once the persimmon thaw then it will be too mushy for drying. You just scoop the meat out with a spoon and enjoy the sweet treat.

    Bookmark   November 16, 2012 at 9:45AM
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