Persimmon seeds

napapen(ca 15)November 28, 2012

I usually find one or two fruits have seeds in them. However this year it is probably about 10%. I have one fruit that looks like a cross between the two trees I have. If luckily it has seeds, I plan to plant them. Does anyone have experience with seedlings and crosses between two.

Thanks Penny

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Biomed(6)

Napapen, This is the way you get a new hybrids. They have been doing crosses like this in China for thousand of years.

    Bookmark   November 30, 2012 at 10:14AM
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Scott F Smith(6B/7A MD)

Penny, you can't tell by the fruit whether it is a cross or not, the fruit is all from the mother's DNA. Still, most persimmon seeds are from cross-pollination since most persimmon varieties produce no male flowers.

Scott

    Bookmark   December 1, 2012 at 5:56PM
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cousinfloyd

Is it possible that really infrequent seeds in persimmons about through parthenogenesis -- if I even understand the word correctly -- i.e. without any pollen/pollination at all?

    Bookmark   December 1, 2012 at 8:20PM
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olympia_gardener(5)

"really infrequent seeds in persimmons"... I have eaten many persimmons with full of seeds... In fact, the sweetest and most flavorful persimmon I have had is the seeded ones.

    Bookmark   December 3, 2012 at 3:51PM
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cousinfloyd

Sure, I would expect fully seeded fruits to come about from normal pollination, but it doesn't sound like napapen has a male tree, so it seems plausible that there isn't any pollinator within pollination distance at all. I suppose the other option is that there's a pollinator barely within pollination distance so that a few fruits are getting partially pollinated?

    Bookmark   December 3, 2012 at 8:18PM
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charlieboring

This is an aside from this topic, but of similar interest. In San Antonio TX I had a neighbor who planted giant sunflower next to his okra plants. He saved the seeds from his okra for the next year. These okra seeds grew okra plants about 15-20 feet tall. I believe that it was due to polination from the giant sunflower.

    Bookmark   December 4, 2012 at 6:19AM
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