Anyone heard of the 'Crimson King' Rosa Rugosa?

jerseyearth(z6NJ)March 24, 2013

Hey all from storm tossed Jersey..

I often like to buy bare root roses at cheap stores (not high grade, I know) because they often have old roses, own root grown roses, and roses not easily found.

I came across something called Crimson King rose hedge in the Rosa rugosa family. Cannot find hardly a stitch of info on it...

UNLESS, I was tricked into buying an ordinary rosa rugosa (which is entirely possible!) :-)

I like the rosa rugosa cultivars, but this one I've never seen. Picture shows red rugosa-type rose with a bright center.

I also bought a "Curly Pink" Brownell sub zero rose which I think might be a bomb according to reviews..

All thoughts much appreciated. Thanks. Pat

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TNY78(7a-East TN)

I actually commented about it on another post a few weeks ago when I bought one ownroot from Big Lots (I think it was Seils thread "This is what happens"). It was in one of those paper box containers mixed in with boxed hydrangeas and wisteria and just said Crimson King Shrub Rose. I decided to take a chance, but since repotting it, all of the new growth as died. I cut it back some, so we'll see if it survives... Even if it is plain old R. Rugosa, I'm ok with it since I don't have it :)

Tammy

This is what the box looked like that mine came in:

This post was edited by TNY78 on Sun, Mar 24, 13 at 19:57

    Bookmark   March 24, 2013 at 7:51PM
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professorroush(6A)

Never heard of it. It's not in Suzy Verrier's Rosa Rugosa book either. My best bet, if it's truly a Rugosa, is that somebody renamed 'Linda Campbell' or 'Robusta' and started selling them. They're about as crimson as the rugosa's get.

    Bookmark   March 24, 2013 at 7:55PM
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catsrose(VA 6)

The only Crimson King on HMF is a Kordes Hybrid Tea. My guess is that it's just R. Rugosa

    Bookmark   March 24, 2013 at 10:27PM
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jerseyearth(z6NJ)

Tammy, I just found that run of posts on "body bag" roses. ;-)

Out here on the Jersey Shore, I cut back the rose, planted it, and mulched it with a lot of leaves. Roses start popping around this time here..I gave it a chance in the ground.. not outdoors.

Thanks also to @professorroush.. ha haa.. they just rename the thing? I guess they can cause the patent has run out! :-D. I'll see what happens. The leaves are very small, with serrated edges.. but, not rugged like Rugosa. I don't really care what it is.. as long as it grows like crazy.. maybe it will be a pleasant surprise!
Pat

    Bookmark   March 24, 2013 at 10:29PM
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mad_gallica(zone 5 - eastern New York)

I've seen some rather bizarre things labelled 'rosa rugosa' locally. Things like Westerland. It seems to have slipped into some odd corner of the horticultural world as a synonym for hardy, disease resistant shrub rose. If the leaves and canes don't look typically rugosa, I'd assume it was something else.

    Bookmark   March 25, 2013 at 12:16PM
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jerseyearth(z6NJ)

Mad_ gallica, it's interesting. These leaves are small and serrated.. almost like a wild multiflora..so, I'm kind of excited to see what it actually is. I like the idea of the "body bags" cause a lot of times one gets old cultivars that surprise us!

Never spent 6.99 more happily! :-)

pat

    Bookmark   March 25, 2013 at 1:18PM
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TNY78(7a-East TN)

Mine may have been different because the one I bought defintely had rugosa leaves. Very rough, green, and the new growth was coming from the tips of the canes. Also the thorns were rugosa like. We'll have to post pictures to see if we have the same cultivator :)

Tammy

    Bookmark   March 25, 2013 at 3:52PM
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jerseyearth(z6NJ)

Hey all.

Sorry for the ripped pic scan, but this was on the box of the so called "Crimson King" Rugosa. It's a close up of the flowers. I know some of you know your Rugosas, so, take a stab at it! Kind of has a nice, bright eye amidst the red. I like it.. whatever it is! :-)
Thanks! Pat

    Bookmark   March 26, 2013 at 4:26PM
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