Vintage's last sale

JoshTx(8a)March 4, 2014

Do we know anything about this last sale, other than it's supposed to be happening in March? I can't seem to find anything other than their website post. With my luck with Vintage sales, I'm trying my best to stay on top of this one!

Josh

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windeaux

The only information available is the following as posted by Gregg on the Vintage website: " . . . One final release of roses will occur in March, a listing of rare roses, many never offered in commerce in the USA, and many rarities that we have propagated in a final effort to preserve them in your hands. Please look for an email we will send out in mid-March for this listing . . . ".

Mid-March isn't quite here yet. Patience . . .

    Bookmark   March 5, 2014 at 8:24AM
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Mendocino_Rose(z8 N CA.)

Are you on their mailing list Josh? Then you'll get notification.

    Bookmark   March 5, 2014 at 8:57AM
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nastarana(5a)

Vintage has stocked a few new roses. I know because I got an email this morning that my VG product had been stocked. I ordered White Spray, Spartan VID, Pinocchio VID, and an interesting HM called Inspector Blom, from Kordes at midcentury.

Of those, Spartan and Pinocchio are known to be possible in zone 5 (5 turning into 6), and Kordes roses so far have done very well for me here. White Spray is, shall we say, iffy. I am a sucker for the LeGrice brand, along with the Tantau brand, because of attention of those breeders to color.

There some new floribundas and HTs newly restocked.

    Bookmark   March 5, 2014 at 11:52AM
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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

Check spam. I got an email from them today

    Bookmark   March 5, 2014 at 3:01PM
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jacqueline9CA

Josh - I just forwarded the Vintage email to you.

Jackie

    Bookmark   March 5, 2014 at 3:03PM
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nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska

Nastarana - Pinocchio is an absolute trooper in zone 5 and can take anything you throw at it. Spartan has also survived well for me in two different spots, but I don't think it's cane hardy. White Spray didn't overwinter for me, but I only tried it once. Le Grice roses tend to be on the wimpy side for hardiness, so I'd give it a protected spot.

I ordered 10 (more) roses from Vintage, finally snagging Oldtimer that I've ordered 3 times from Vintage but it had crop failure each time. I got beat once again on Camille Pisarro and Tea Time, though - drat!

Here's the complete list - they seem to be up on the website and ready to order:

B Meteor 1
ChCl Setina 1
D Bella Donna 1
D Coralie 1
E Jeannie Deans 1
Fl Apache Tears VID 1
Fl Brown Velvet 1
FL Camille Pissaro 1
Fl Centenaire de Lourdes 1
Fl Cherish 1
Fl Confetti VID 1
Fl Europeana 1
Fl Fred Loads 1
Fl Golden Garnette VID 1
Fl Grey Dawn 1
Fl Ivory Triumph 1
Fl Lavender Pinocchio 3
Fl Lilac Dawn 1
Fl Lili Marlène 2
Fl Norwich Castle 1
Fl Orangeade 1
Fl Peppermint Twist 2
Fl Pinocchio VID 1
Fl Playboy 2
Fl Purple Tiger 1
Fl Sherry 1
Fl Spartan 1
Fl Sunsprite 1
Fl White Spray 2
FlCl Goldilocks, Climbing 1
FlCl Heidelberg 1
G Agatha Francofurtana 1
G Arlequin 1
G Belle Herminie 2
G Charles De Mills 1
G Georges Vibert 1
G L'Ingénue 1
G La Belle Sultane 1
G Sultane Favorite 1
HB "California Malton" 1
HB Mme. Lauriol de Barny 1
HM Heinrich Conrad Soth 1
HM Inspektor Blohm 1
HM Kathleen 1
HM Pax 1
HM Plaisanterie 1
HM Thisbe 1
HM Verdi 2
HP Clio 1
HP Marchesa Boccella 1
HP Souvenir du Dr. Jamain 1
HP Ulrich Brunner, Fils 1
HT American Heritage VID 1
HT Baronne Edmond de Rothschild 1
HT Blithe Spirit 1
HT Bob Hope VID 1
HT British Queen 1
HT Broadway 1 HT Calico 1
HT Charles de Gaulle 1
HT Chivalry 3
HT Chrysler Imperial 1
HT Colour Wonder VID 1
HT Crimson Glory VID 1
HT Ellen Willmott 1
HT Ethel Sanday 1
HT Frances Ashton 1
HT Futura 1
HT Harry Wheatcroft 2
HT Helen Traubel VID 2
HT Helmut Schmidt VID 1
HT High Esteem 1
HT John F. Kennedy VID 1
HT Josephine Bruce 2
HT Julia's Rose 1
HT Karl Herbst 1
HT Katherine T. Marshall 1
HT Kitchener of Khartoum 1
HT Lady Elgin VID 1
HT Macho Man 2
HT Maria Callas VID 2
HT Mexicana 1
HT Mr. Lincoln VID 1
HT Neptune 1
HT Nigrette 3
HT Nocturne VID 1
HT Oldtimer VID 3
HT Olympiad (1931) 1
HT Padre 1
HT Panorama 1
HT Patsy Cline VID 1
HT Peach Beauty VID 2
HT Polynesian Sunset 1
HT Pres. Herbert Hoover 1
HT Rose Gaujard 1
HT Royal Airforce 1
HT Saint-Exupery 1
HT Saturnia 1
HT Seashell VID 1
HT Shi-Un 1
HT Silver Spoon 3
HT Smoky VID 3
HT Spiced Coffee 1
HT Stephen's Big Purple 2
HT Swarthmore VID 1
HT Talisman 2
HT Tea Time 2
HT Texas Centennial 1
HT Thanksgiving 1
HT Tropicana VID 1
HT Twice in a Blue Moon 2
HT Typhoo Tea 1
HT White Prince 1
HT Yellow Talisman 1
HTCl Amy Johnson 1
HTCl First Prize, Climbing VID 1
HTCl General MacArthur, Climbing 1
HTCl Red Talisman, Climbing 1
HTCl Sénégal 1
HTCl W. Freeland Kendrick 2
LCl Coral Dawn 1
LCl Crimson Cascade 1
LCl Doubloons VID 1
LCl High Noon 1
LCl JACclam (aka America™) 1
LCl Jactan 3
LCl Joseph's Coat VI 2
LCl Rosendorf Schmitshausen 1
LCl Royal Sunset 1
LCl Sombreuil 5
LCl Swan Lake 1
LCl Tempo VID 1
LCl William Baffin 2
M Crimson Globe 1
M Melanie Waldor 1
M Mme. Louis Lévêque 1
M Robert Léopold 1
M Salet 1
Min Cinderella 1
Min Janice 1
Min Oakington Ruby 1
N Jacques Amiot 1
N "Lingo Musk" 1
N Narrow Water 1
Pol Sneprinsesse 1
PolCl Clotilde Soupert, Cli 1
PolCl Phyllis Bide 2
R Dr. Huey VID 4
R Fräulein Octavia Hesse 1
R Purity 1
Rug Rosa rugosa X Rosa nipponica 1
S Illusion 1
S Jazz Club 1
S Rosy Cushion 4
S/Aus Chaucer 1
S/Aus (Constance Spry™ aka) AUStance 1
S/Aus (Fair Bianca™ aka) AUSca 1
S/AUS John Clare 6
S/Aus Red Coat 1
Sp Rosa cinnamomea plena 1
Sp Rosa corymbifera 1
Sp Rosa laevigata 1
Sp Rosa palustris scandens 1
T "Hubner Plot Tea" 1
TN Alister Stella Gray 2
TN Crépuscule 2
TN Elie Beauvilain 1
TN Rêve d'Or 2

Let's help Vintage go out with a bang! Go order those rare roses and help them with the sad transition. Let us know if you need enabling of any of the postings (as if that's hard).

Cynthia

    Bookmark   March 5, 2014 at 3:11PM
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Mendocino_Rose(z8 N CA.)

When the Anne Belovich ramblers go on sale this will be an incredible opportunity. These are very rare roses. Mostly they are only in Anne's and my garden in the US.

    Bookmark   March 5, 2014 at 3:36PM
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JoshTx(8a)

Thanks everyone! Jackie forwarded the email to me and I got one as well.

I went for Hubner Plot Tea (T), Thisbe (HyMusk), and Royal Sunset (ClHT).

I am just crossing my fingers that I actually get them. I've had atrocious luck with Vintage sales so far.

Josh

    Bookmark   March 5, 2014 at 4:21PM
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Mendocino_Rose(z8 N CA.)

I realize i should have mentioned that I meant private gardens in reference to the Anne roses. They will be preserved by the Anne Belovich Rambler Garden in Texas as well.

    Bookmark   March 5, 2014 at 6:13PM
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zaphod42

The website crashed while I was trying to order. I emailed instead. Hope I'm able to get at least a couple of the ones I tried for. The one I'm really hoping for is L'Ingénue. Just a sucker for the gallicas.

    Bookmark   March 5, 2014 at 6:35PM
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nastarana(5a)

If they only have one of each, I would say the chances of me being first in line are slim.

    Bookmark   March 5, 2014 at 6:54PM
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JoshTx(8a)

Nastarana,

Agreed. It looks like it'll be a close call for any of our choices. Zaphod, I've had the same thing happen to me while I was trying to order back in July. The website decided enough was enough and it never processed my order. Good thinking on the email order!

If they can't fill most of my order, do y'all know if they'd be willing to put the money towards a future order?

Josh

    Bookmark   March 5, 2014 at 8:38PM
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AquaEyes 7a New Jersey

I ordered just two -- 'Crimson Glory' and 'Mr. Lincoln'. I was going to order them elsewhere for less money, anyway, but I figured that it was worth it to nab them as VID plants. I noticed there was just one of each available. I guess I'll find out tomorrow if I got them. And I'll keep an eye open for any others I didn't find last year when the next releases come out.

:-)

~Christopher

    Bookmark   March 5, 2014 at 8:57PM
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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

What roses might be on the Anne Belovich Rambler list?

Did you all get a second email tonight?

I have one I would like and it is one of a kind so guessing my chances are slim

    Bookmark   March 6, 2014 at 12:42AM
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rosefolly

There are some lovely roses on the list. Had I not just discarded 42 roses I might be buying, but under the present situation, I will let them pass me by.

However, I must admit that I felt the temptation. To anyone who has room and inclination: Go for it!

    Bookmark   March 6, 2014 at 1:10AM
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Mendocino_Rose(z8 N CA.)

I don't know if all the ramblers that I have planted from Anne will be on the list. There are very interesting things like Babier Ramblers that haven't been available, some old American ramblers that went to Europe and disappeared here, ramblers from eastern Europe.

    Bookmark   March 6, 2014 at 8:56AM
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chris209

So there will be another list in addition to the one posted above?

    Bookmark   March 6, 2014 at 9:00AM
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Mendocino_Rose(z8 N CA.)

Yes. The Anne Belovich rambler list will be released in mid-March, another group of roses late March, and perhaps more in April and May.

    Bookmark   March 6, 2014 at 9:08AM
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nastarana(5a)

New email from VG this morning. I expanded my order to add Francois Arago and Paul's Single White Perpetual. I lost out on FA last fall so am really hoping that the East Coast time advantage works for me this time around.

I do hope the more coming, if they do come, will include some albas and Portlands!

    Bookmark   March 6, 2014 at 11:02AM
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aviastar 7A Virginia

I was really hoping to snag Alistair Stella Gray, but both were already gone by the time I checked yesterday. Darn it!

Oh well, hope you all have better luck than I did!

    Bookmark   March 6, 2014 at 11:36AM
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JoshTx(8a)

Hmm. I suppose with such low numbers of plants they simply had to release them and then led the crowds scramble, but I really hope that when they do their final sale they will give us a day or two for a notice.

AviaStar,

I would check with Angel Gardens for a ASG.

Josh

    Bookmark   March 6, 2014 at 1:54PM
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bellarosa(z5/IL)

Can you still place an order on the vintage website?

    Bookmark   March 6, 2014 at 4:00PM
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JoshTx(8a)

I believe so!

    Bookmark   March 6, 2014 at 9:17PM
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alameda/zone 8

Aviastar, try Chamblees roses for ASG - they sell lovely own root roses at excellent prices - know you can get one there.

    Bookmark   March 6, 2014 at 11:18PM
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JoshTx(8a)

Waiting for this confirmation email is excruciating! Lol. My boundless, youthful impatience has me chomping at the bit!

If you guys hear from VG, definitely share your final order!

Josh

    Bookmark   March 7, 2014 at 3:40PM
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aviastar 7A Virginia

Thank you Josh and alameda! Off on the hunt again..

:)

    Bookmark   March 7, 2014 at 4:56PM
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JoshTx(8a)

Just got an email from Vintage, and it turns out I didn't get a single thing! It's a bit humorous in an odd way. How'd everyone else do?

Josh

This post was edited by JoshTx on Fri, Mar 7, 14 at 22:13

    Bookmark   March 7, 2014 at 5:43PM
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alameda/zone 8

I have been impatiently waiting too........just got word from Vintage that Gregg is going to have to send out the confirmations of those who got roses on Sunday.......I will have to wait, but apparently I got something! So no news is apparently good news. Will be a long wait.......but just delighted to get something. Josh, if I get something you want [or if I have something you want], I will be glad to share cuttings. I don't have Huber Plot Tea and don't know anything about it, but I love tea roses and am sure its a nice one. Good luck to everyone! As many people that are buying.....wish they would just change their minds and stay in business - just one more year!!!
Judith

    Bookmark   March 7, 2014 at 6:47PM
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nastarana(5a)

I just received two emails.

The first said the four I had requested had been set aside for me.

The second said I would receive confirmation Sunday. I hope that refers to the two HPs I requested later.

I am really looking forward to growing Spartan and Pinocchio. I had despaired of ever finding Spartan again.

    Bookmark   March 7, 2014 at 9:42PM
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Desertgarden- Las Vegas, Z8b @ 2800 ft.

I have not heard a peep since yesterday :(, but am exercising more patience.

Lynn

    Bookmark   March 7, 2014 at 10:54PM
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JoshTx(8a)

Lynn,

I believe in this instance, no news is indeed good news. It looks like Sunday I the projected confirmation date.

Josh

    Bookmark   March 7, 2014 at 11:05PM
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rosefolly

I am so going to miss Vintage.

Of course, I do get to drive up and work there several times a year. Like tomorrow.

Folly

    Bookmark   March 7, 2014 at 11:10PM
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JoshTx(8a)

Folly,

I am envious of you! If I ever make it out to California I'll find a way to see Vintage.

On the flip side of the things, I used the money from the Vintage order to fuel my newfound interest in unusual trees and shrubs. I ordered two Edgeworthia Chrysantha that should be here in April. It blooms in the winter so I figured it would help offset the lack of roses.

    Bookmark   March 8, 2014 at 5:30AM
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Campanula UK Z8

excellent idea, Josh. There is more to life than roses (hard though that may be to believe) and diversity is a fundamental aspect of garden health.
Cannot manage this lovely daphne relative in my cold alkaline garden....but if you can provide the holy grail of garden soil - moist but well drained peaty loam, and the temps don't dip under -5C, it is a beautiful early spring shrub. Grow hellebores underneath.

    Bookmark   March 8, 2014 at 7:38AM
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AquaEyes 7a New Jersey

I missed out on the two I picked ('Crimson Glory' and 'Mr. Lincoln), but no biggie. I can get them elsewhere, though it would have been nice to get them as VID from Vintage. There were only a couple others I had in mind last year but couldn't find, so if they come up later, that'll be what I pick. Oh, well....at least it's good to know they're clearing their inventory!

:-)

~Christopher

    Bookmark   March 8, 2014 at 10:10AM
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JoshTx(8a)

Camp,

I'll probably put it in a raised island bed edged in large stones, and hand make the soil to its liking. I was actually looking into Hellesbores to put underneath it! What color do you think would look good with it? I was leaning towards a crimson...

Josh

    Bookmark   March 9, 2014 at 5:23AM
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zaphod42

I received my confirmation and was able to pick up a few, including L'Ingenue which was the one I really wanted and looks to have availability only through Vintage. Also picked up Jactan and Belle Herminie. Missed out on Mme. Lauriol de Barny, but she seems a bit more widely available.

This post was edited by zaphod42 on Mon, Mar 10, 14 at 9:39

    Bookmark   March 10, 2014 at 9:38AM
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Campanula UK Z8

Josh, a couple of years ago, Mr Camps made a 70 mile trip to buy me a single hellebore plant (yes, I know 70 miles is nothing in the US but in the UK, we are almost packing our toothbrush and pyjamas).....a glorious primrose yellow. Along with the white, faintly freckled orientalis.....would, I think, look glorious under an edgeworthia. The crimson Red Lady would look spectacular but the deep atrorubens are gorgeous for close-up viewing....but tend to vanish in the hurly burly of the garden.

    Bookmark   March 10, 2014 at 9:48AM
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gardentiller

The confirmation told me that I got none of the 4 VID Dr Huey.
Does any rosarian could share a single VID plant or some nice VID cuttings for me to graft?
Thanks!

    Bookmark   March 10, 2014 at 11:55PM
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raingoaway12

I misplaced the last email from Vintage Gardens. When was the final release of roses supposed to be? The website states an email of the roses to be released in their final release will occur in mid March. I just am hoping I have a day or two to plan on what to get from that list. I remember the last email from Vintage said some rare rambler roses were going to be released at some point this month.

    Bookmark   March 17, 2014 at 3:43PM
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Mendocino_Rose(z8 N CA.)

Yes rare ramblers sometime this month and then one or two more releases later. April probably.

    Bookmark   March 17, 2014 at 6:02PM
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new_garden(7)

I bought these four: I'm not that familiar with roses and couldn't tell you what they look like by name so I picked based on the names not knowing much about the rose. I figured crimson glory was red, American heritage sounded good and patriotic, Texas centennial, we are in Texas this year, and spiced coffee is always good. Lol

HTCrimson Glory
HTAmerican Heritage
HT Texas Centennial
Ht Spiced Coffee

And all 10 Ferdy for a hedge. Although I'm not sure where the hedge will go yet. LOL!!! If you look at pics of Ferdy hedges online they are stunning.

    Bookmark   April 6, 2014 at 11:47PM
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poorbutroserich(Nashville 7a)

Nastarana, I grow Spartan if you don't get it. I can send some cuttings but it may be awhile as own root this rose is slllloooowwww to grow.
Susan

    Bookmark   April 7, 2014 at 6:25PM
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AquaEyes 7a New Jersey

New_Garden -- ah-HAH! So you're the one who beat me to 'Crimson Glory'! Well, congrats, and hope you will enjoy that one. I got one band last year from Vintage but it was "nibbled to death" by a squirrel. I planned to replace it eventually, and tried to nab another from Vintage, but lost out. It's for the best, however, as I already have so many companion perennials to plant this year that the last thing I need is another "rose in a pot." So I'll nab mine elsewhere, maybe next year.

:-)

~Christopher

    Bookmark   April 7, 2014 at 8:54PM
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new_garden(7)

I'll get this going and try to root some.

Will the VID stay VID forever?

    Bookmark   April 8, 2014 at 8:34PM
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AquaEyes 7a New Jersey

It will, so long as it isn't grafted/budded onto an infected rose. If planted in the garden, about the only way it could become infected with the common forms of mosaic is if you planted it VERY close to an infected rose, and their roots grow together enough to form natural grafts below the ground.

:-)

~Christopher

    Bookmark   April 9, 2014 at 10:25AM
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