Munstead Wood, Tradescant, Wm S. 2000?

hosenemesis(SoCal Sunset 19 USDA 8b)May 16, 2011

Hello all,

I'm looking for a very dark red sprawly or climbing rose for a partially shaded corner in my hot inland Southern California garden. I don't spray. I love the Austin dark reds. Are there any others that look similar that I should consider? I don't need a whole bunch of flowers in this spot, which will be behind Bouquet Parfait in front of some tall shrubs. I am willing to look at modern as well as English or OGRs. Will any of these grow here?


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If you are looking for something "sprawling", then WS2000 definitely fits the bill. It grows in an awkward manner and it's difficult to get his growth in a "mannerly" habit. WS2000 tends to want to throw out a lot of lateral canes that are long as it's vigor increased then shoots up vertical canes from those horizontals...think of training a climber on the ground. Now it doesn't do this all the time. You will gets some upright ones that might even climb a bit in your area. I had an upright one that got up to 4.5ft tall once. I had WS2000 in a less than desirable area but he still did well. It will grow wider than tall at around 3-4'x4-5'. I'm actually ordering Munstead Wood this year, but from what I can tell, Munstead Wood has a darker bloom more along the color lines of The Prince and has a more compact growth habit with more manners. Tradescant seems like it has similar coloring to WS2000 except maybe slightly darker and grows in a larger manner and sometimes as a climber.

    Bookmark   May 16, 2011 at 9:51AM
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WS 2000 sprawls. Munstead Wood is more compact and shrub-like. IMO MW is one of Austin's finer roses.


    Bookmark   May 16, 2011 at 12:32PM
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hosenemesis(SoCal Sunset 19 USDA 8b)

That's good to hear, because Munstead Wood is my favorite of all. I will try it. Thank you.

    Bookmark   May 16, 2011 at 3:24PM
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karenforroses(z5 NorthernMI)

I agree with all of you - same experience. Love both MW & WS - amazing flower form, color and fragrance. I'm usually not a red rose person, but I just love these two guys.

    Bookmark   May 16, 2011 at 5:11PM
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