propagation: leaf has crease

katmitx(8a)June 10, 2013

I ordered 4 leaves online which I received last week. I wish I'd taken close up pics of them but didn't. Three are doing fine but the 4th got limpy on one side and there's also a weird dark crease with a light-colored line down the center, almost like it got creased and was damaged. I was very careful with them when I planted them. I don't know if the limpness is related or not. In the pic the crease is at the lower left of the leaf.

I've done leaf propagation before when pruning/repotting and never had any problems. I also didn't stress since there was nothing to lose. In this case, I bought the leaves and want them to succeed!

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katmitx(8a)

Here's what it looks like from the back. I had to hold the limpy part up with my hand, unfortunately.

    Bookmark   June 10, 2013 at 6:03PM
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Linda

It's hard to tell if there's real damage but I have cut off damaged sections of leaves and still had success. I would watch it closely for a day or two and if the damage seems to get worse or is spreading, I would cut away the bad section leaving the large vein to the top. Let's see what others have to say.

Linda

    Bookmark   June 10, 2013 at 7:02PM
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irina_co(z5 CO)

Take the manicure scissors and cut off the piece with discoloration - not only the break, but everything that turned on the back of the leaf. - practically up to the leaf stem. Do not damage the stem. Dip a Q-tip into ground cinnamon - and dust the cut.

Shouldn't be any problems afterwards.

Irina

    Bookmark   June 10, 2013 at 7:03PM
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irina_co(z5 CO)

Aha - Linda - I told you we always agree!

It will spread...the whole leaf will rot if not taken care.

    Bookmark   June 10, 2013 at 7:08PM
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Linda

Irina,

That's because we are both totally awesome.

Linda ;)

    Bookmark   June 10, 2013 at 7:25PM
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katmitx(8a)

Thanks. I waited to gauge the health and it deteriorated since taking the pics. I cut off the side and top (including top of stem) because it wasn't looking good up there either. Hopefully I left enough of the stem. I then dabbed cinnamon along the edge. Some got on the leaf and I cleaned it off best I could. Hopefully that's ok. Now just wait and see. I'm bummed. It had such a pretty curly leaf too.

    Bookmark   June 11, 2013 at 1:48AM
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Linda

Kat,
What's the variety?

Linda

    Bookmark   June 11, 2013 at 1:54AM
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katmitx(8a)

Windy Day:

Here is a link that might be useful: Hope mine turns out like this!

    Bookmark   June 11, 2013 at 2:06AM
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katmitx(8a)

Post-op photo. If you go back to the original photo you can just see that the top of the leaf is hanging over and brownish, so I trimmed that also. The brownish speckles are the cinnamon that I cleaned off best I could. The hairs make that difficult.

=^.^=

This post was edited by katmitx on Tue, Jun 11, 13 at 11:08

    Bookmark   June 11, 2013 at 11:05AM
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Linda

Kat,
It looks like it might be okay. Make sure you enclose it with a baggie or a dome to provide extra humidity and give good light. I wouldn't worry about the excess cinnamon. If it doesn't work I have a Windy Day. I'll send you a leaf. Let us know how it goes.

Linda

    Bookmark   June 11, 2013 at 12:37PM
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perle_de_or(Zone 7)

I have done the same thing (cutting bad sections off) with very good success. In fact, I don't think I have lost any that I did this with. Its amazing how tough these plants are and how much they want to grow!
Yes, definitely cover it.

    Bookmark   June 11, 2013 at 2:17PM
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Linda

I am always dumb-founded when people say violets are difficult to grow...

Linda

    Bookmark   June 11, 2013 at 3:30PM
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katmitx(8a)

I did cover it with a baggy, as well as my other leaves. I have this one separate from the other 3 tho.

Linda, AVs are the only thing I seem to be able to grow, besides Pothos. Having 2 cats also limits what I can have in the house, so works out well!

    Bookmark   June 11, 2013 at 6:36PM
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Linda

Kat,
I think if you can only grow one thing, violets are that perfect thing. There's nothing better than blooming violets on a cold, dreary, winter's day. :)
Linda

    Bookmark   June 12, 2013 at 12:56AM
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michael1846(6)

Y does everyone do soil leaf propagation just get a cup of water put clear rap on it poke a hole in it and I have allways had 100% success

    Bookmark   June 18, 2013 at 4:27PM
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irina_co(z5 CO)

Michael -

with soil method you get a blooming plant much faster - and you can produce more babies if you need them for whatever reason. But if you are not in a hurry and you only need 1-2 babies - why not- much less hassle.

I.

    Bookmark   June 18, 2013 at 7:16PM
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katmitx(8a)

I learned the soil method first so that's why I do it.

Bad news, I noticed new browning this morning along the upper part of my cut. I was hoping by now I was out of the woods. :( I guess I could trim again, nothing to lose right?

    Bookmark   June 19, 2013 at 11:43AM
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irina_co(z5 CO)

Exactly!

    Bookmark   June 19, 2013 at 1:08PM
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katmitx(8a)

My leaf survived and has 2 little leaves coming up, both about 1/4 inch across. My other 3 leaves which I bought at the same time also have leaves coming up! Yay!

Thank you all who gave me advice.

    Bookmark   September 6, 2013 at 7:36PM
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Linda

Kat,

Thanks for letting us know how it turned out. I hate it when people just disappear...

Linda

    Bookmark   September 7, 2013 at 1:51AM
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fortyseven_gw

Hi Linda
On another thread, you gave me some great advice
about rooting a leave. I did have leaves at times
that did not put out babies. I just let them
be, and months later, they did produce babies!
The babies have not yet grown into plants, so
I don't know how strong they will be.

Years ago, I lived in a house
that was too dark to grow AVs and it rained every day.
Now I live in a place with a lot of light and no rain,
so they are easy to grow.
However, when I am away, it is difficult to explain
to the plant-sitter how very little water they need.
So I try not to be away longer than a week.
Joanne 47

    Bookmark   September 14, 2013 at 4:43AM
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Linda

Joanne.

Old orchid's growers trick: water well, turn off the lights and go away on vacation! This will give you about two and a half weeks time off. I use it extensively because my other passion is travel. I've been to four of the seven continents-Africa, Asia, Europe and North America and I fully intend to visit the other three as well.

Linda

    Bookmark   September 14, 2013 at 4:04PM
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fortyseven_gw

Hi Linda
Yes, you are indeed living the "abundant life!"

What fantastic advice! If I thought I could
leave the violets for 2 1/2 weeks,
I could leave the mainland ...

I do have a few orchids.
I have no idea what makes them bloom again, so I've
learned to take photos when they are in bloom
and for the next two years ... learn to love green
leathery foliage ...
sometimes they surprise me, usually after I have
given up altogether.

joanne

    Bookmark   September 18, 2013 at 2:20AM
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