Love the new Austin cut roses

mustbnuts zone 9 sunset 9July 24, 2014

I am nuts over Kate and Edith. I know that often cut roses don't do well in the garden, but does anyone know if they will ever be offered for us "regular" gardeners?

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nikthegreek(9b/10a E of Athens)

Most probably not. At least not under the same names.
Nik

    Bookmark   July 24, 2014 at 1:06AM
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adamharbeck(WA Aust)

Maybe you could try growing them from cuttings?

Here is a link that might be useful: this was an inspiring thread

    Bookmark   July 24, 2014 at 2:03AM
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nikthegreek(9b/10a E of Athens)

They are copyrighted btw, whatever this info is worth.
Nik

    Bookmark   July 24, 2014 at 2:50AM
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adamharbeck(WA Aust)

But you can still grow cuttings for your own pleasure, right?

Tineke and Veronika were originally released as cut-flower glasshouse roses, but they are now offered as garden plants. Maybe it's just a matter of time.

    Bookmark   July 24, 2014 at 9:44PM
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nikthegreek(9b/10a E of Athens)

I'm not sure that you can actually, since a rose plant is not sold to you in the first place but I'm not an expert in copyright law :)

On top of copyrighted all Austins are trademarked so even when the copyright runs out the plant cannot be sold under that name.
Nik

    Bookmark   July 24, 2014 at 11:29PM
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nikthegreek(9b/10a E of Athens)

I'm not sure that you can actually, since a rose plant is not sold to you in the first place but I'm not an expert in copyright law :)

On top of copyrighted all Austins are trademarked so even when the copyright runs out the plant cannot be sold under that name.
Nik

    Bookmark   July 24, 2014 at 11:35PM
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ArbutusOmnedo 10/24

In reality it probably wouldn't be a big deal if you managed to propagate one plant for private use, but in theory no plant that is under patent still should be asexually propagated until that patent period has come to an end or you have permission from the breeder/owner of the rights which is usually acquired by paying some sort of fee.

Also of concern is whether the florist David Austins are able to be grown well without intense chemical regimes or perfect greenhouse conditions like a lot of florist HTs. There's probably a reason they aren't made available as plants. Though a cynical person might say it's to "force" customers to buy more cut flowers directly from DA to supplement their DA garden shrubs that aren't great cut flowers for the most part from my experiences.

Jay

    Bookmark   July 25, 2014 at 12:04AM
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adamharbeck(WA Aust)

It's a vast conspiracy!

Maybe word will get back to Mr Austin and he will start looking at releasing garden varieties with better cutting qualities? He might be out there cross-pollenating right now. I see Kordes is offering up 'olde worlde' style cut-flower varieties.

Here is a link that might be useful: Kordes Rosen

    Bookmark   July 25, 2014 at 1:21AM
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nikthegreek(9b/10a E of Athens)

These Kordes 'outdoor cutroses' are still cutroses destined for the cut flower industry, the way I understand it. They are not retail garden plants.
Nik

This post was edited by nikthegreek on Fri, Jul 25, 14 at 1:37

    Bookmark   July 25, 2014 at 1:34AM
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