Enfant de France?

poorbutroserich(Nashville 7a)September 26, 2012

Hello. I saw a photo in one of my books last night of this lovely! Just went to HMF were she is classified as a Hybrid Perpetual, Gallica and Alba...


Does anyone grow her?



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Not in many years. This and Spencer appear to have been confused in this country for a very long time. I didn't find it to be a good enough "doer" in my climate so it was given away many, many years ago. Kim

    Bookmark   September 26, 2012 at 7:14PM
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I think of it as a Hybrid Perpetual. I don't grow it but saw it many years ago at San Jose Heritage Rose Garden, it does have a lovely bloom. I don't recall if it had a strong fragrance....

The Hybrid Perpetuals and Damask Perpetuals do well here, they tolerate cold very well.

If you like pink heavily petalled blooms, Marchesa Boccella is a fantastic rose for a cold zone, delicious fragrance and a sturdy rose.

    Bookmark   September 26, 2012 at 7:33PM
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poorbutroserich(Nashville 7a)

Thanks for the advice. I am still trying to sort out the differences in all the classes. I will add Marchesa Boccella to the list.
Clementina Carbonieri strikes my fancy. I seem to be drawn to the Nabonnands.

    Bookmark   September 26, 2012 at 10:48PM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

Mildewed horribly here.
We gave her to a friend, who lived further inland, and whose garden was not troubled much by mildew --- and danged if it didn't mildew horribly for her, as well.

But IIRC, it does well in the Sacramento City Cemetery.


    Bookmark   September 26, 2012 at 11:33PM
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'Clementina Carbonieri' is a fabulous beauty! a slow starter in my garden where roses are grown very hard, but my mature plant is now enormous.

    Bookmark   September 27, 2012 at 12:25AM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

CC just doesn't like my conditions, I guess. I've tried 4 times. I give up!


    Bookmark   September 27, 2012 at 10:42AM
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I agree with Melissa CC is a very slow starter. Must have patience. Keep her weed free and feed her! She is so worth it!

    Bookmark   September 27, 2012 at 9:18PM
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lori_elf z6b MD

It's one of the better Hybrid Perpetuals for this climate. I really liked her, very fragrant and the shades of pink in her flowers are really luminous, not just an ordinary "pink". Gets some blackspot without spraying and a little leggy, but worth the trouble.

    Bookmark   September 29, 2012 at 9:57AM
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poorbutroserich(Nashville 7a)

CC is on my order. Guess Enfant shall not be! Thanks. Cannot wait to get her.
AND, I'm assuming I should use the feeding and pruning techniques you suggest, Kim?

    Bookmark   September 30, 2012 at 11:57PM
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