Cherry Trees

mimijacobs(z7 AL)May 11, 2011

Why can't I get sour cherries (pie) to grow here? I live in Zone 7, so they should! I've tried 3 times planting, have kept saplings watered, mulched, watched for bugs, etc., and they keep dying on me! What am I doing wrong!!! Sweet cherries grow just fine (Nanking)but not sour cherry!

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alabamanicole(7b)

What varieties did you plant, where did you get them from and how long do they survive? What are they dying of, or if you don't know, what are the symptoms of their dying?

    Bookmark   May 11, 2011 at 6:13PM
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lucky_p

Growing up in UCLA(Lee Co.), on the zone 7/8 interface, I don't know that I ever saw a fruiting cherry tree - anywhere. While AL is 'almost heaven', there are some plants that just won't grow there.
I've searched the AU Extension fruit publications, and they don't even mention cherries. That's sort of 'telling' in and of itself.

Nanking is not a sweet cherry; it's a bush producing tiny little fruits, and actually, is more closely related to plums than to cherries.
That said, I would expect sour/pie cherries, like Montmorency, North Star, etc. to *maybe* work for you (but sweet cherries, not at all).
You say 'sapling' - are you getting grafted selections from a reputable nursery, or just random seedlings from somewhere? Stonefruit rootstocks vary in their requirements for soil type and moisture tolerance - if you're planting grafted/budded selections, perhaps they're not on the appropriate rootstock for your area, or, perhaps you're overwatering, or, perhaps, cherries just won't grow where you are.

    Bookmark   May 16, 2011 at 8:54AM
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topsiebeezelbub(z7 Al)

I heard a very reputable nurseryman tell a customer that they won't grow here. He didn't say why, but he passed up a sale by telling the truth. This is not the Midwest.

    Bookmark   May 17, 2011 at 12:52AM
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alabamanicole(7b)

My notes suggest the following varieties for central and northern Alabama: Dwarf Northstar (sour), Montmorency (sour), Black Tartarian (sweet), Stella (sweet) and Chelan (sweet). Chelan and Black Tartarian require cross pollination. Typically Mazzard or Mahaleb rootstocks are used.

But there's a lot of "Zone 7" stuff that is very marginal here due to our hot summers. Just because we get enough chilling hours doesn't mean our climate is right overall. We basically need plants that can tolerate zones 7 AND 8.

I personally would not invest the space, time and money in cherries in Alabama, divine though they may be. (I had a Rainier cherry in northern California. 100% wow.) If you want additional sort-of cherry production like Nanking, you could try the Prunus japonica x Prunus jacquemontii crosses ("Jan", "Joel" and "Joy") grafted onto plum rootstock. Still not a great bet, IMO.

Goumi is also reported to be cherry-like, but I've never tasted one.

    Bookmark   May 17, 2011 at 8:04PM
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