Some Qs for the FAQs please

Nelz(z5b/6 NW PA)July 23, 2005

A few years ago when this topic was given it's own forum, many of us were quite happy, to say the least! Some preliminary work was done on the FAQs, and I requested (and got) permission attached to my ID to do the allium FAQs. Then life got in the way, and as one poster put it "I disappearred". Things have settled and I am back. Coming with me is the ID, to do the allium FAQs, as well as the time and inclination.

Here's the process:

Some of us are working on some of the very basic FAQs. When ready I will post the Q and A for comment. We'll get it polished, and I'll post it to the FAQ.

There are other Qs that some folks feel should be in the FAQs. What we need to do is get a list of questions and then decide on the top 6-8. Then I'll start one thread for each Q, and we can develop the answer. Once we have it polished, I'll post that to the FAQ.

So, let's use this thread to garner input for QUESTIONS ONLY (we'll work the answers later) that we would like to see on the FAQs page.

Please post any Qs you think would be well suited for the FAQ section. Also, as others post questions, you can 'vote' on them if you think they are good ones also. Positive comments on other questions only!

Let's give it a week or two and see how it goes. Once we have the top 6-8 good questions, we can work on answers.

Ready, GO!

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AustinApril(8b)

Can I plant garlic/onions I buy at the grocery store?

    Bookmark   July 25, 2005 at 10:32AM
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makalu_gw(z5b NY)

What kind of soil do alliums like?

What's the difference between softneck and hardneck garlic and which type does best where?

What's the difference between long-day and short-day onions?

My onion / garlic tops are falling over ... what do I do?

How do I cure and store alliums?

    Bookmark   July 25, 2005 at 5:48PM
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AlliYum(z5b IL)

Some more questions for consideration--most of these questions posed with garlic in mind:

1) When do I plant, when do I harvest?

2) How deep do I plant and what spacing?

3) How do I harvest?

4) What do I do with them once they are out of the ground?

5) How long will they store and where do I store them?

    Bookmark   July 25, 2005 at 8:16PM
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oregon_veg(8)

How important is mulching and what do I use for mulch?

    Bookmark   July 25, 2005 at 9:29PM
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glane1219(northern OK.)

When do i cut the scapes off my garlic?

    Bookmark   July 26, 2005 at 9:56AM
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makalu_gw(z5b NY)

How about the basic "What do I plant" for onions (seed, plants, sets), garlic (clove size from plant size), shallots, etc. for the best results?

    Bookmark   July 26, 2005 at 4:47PM
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Nelz(z5b/6 NW PA)

Pretty good list so far! Keep 'em coming!

Some of these will be stand alone, and some will be covered as part of answers to broader questions!

    Bookmark   July 26, 2005 at 6:35PM
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TinSB(z9 CA)

I like makalu's suggestion of hardneck vs softneck and what zones for each, and I would like to know why they do better in differing areas.

thanks for doing this,

~T

    Bookmark   July 27, 2005 at 3:35PM
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TJG911(z5b CT)

how about instructions on fertilizing (when, with what) and watering (how much, when to stop).

tom

    Bookmark   July 28, 2005 at 8:55AM
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the_pumpkin_queen(z7 Arkansas)

Is planting depth from the bottom or top of the clove/bulb?

    Bookmark   August 6, 2005 at 12:59PM
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Cathymr(z5 NB Canada)

how long will it take to get mature plants from seeds? for edible alliums and for ornamental alliums?

    Bookmark   August 6, 2005 at 4:17PM
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UncleJohn(z4 NH)

Given the broad range of Alliums, I think that 6-8 sounds like a very small number of questions.

In adition to general questions there should be at least 6-8 specifically for garlic
1) hardnecks vs softnecks
2) planting stock selection and preparation (bulb size, clove size, breaking apart bulbs without bruising, washing in baking soda solution or alcohol (or not), etc)
3) how to plant (when, how deep, spacing, fertilizing, mulching, etc)
4) if/when/how when to cut scapes (and what to do with them - yum!)
5) when/how to harvest and cure
6) favorite garlics for various zones/climates
7) storage
8) multi-year strategies (rotation, bed development, building stocks from purchased bulbs)
9) pests

Onions:
1) long day vs short
2) starting onions (including starting seeds, buying sets, and buying started plants)
3) transplanting out (when, spacing)
4) green/bunching onions
5) maintaining (feeding, mulching or not)
6) when/how to harvest
7) storage

Shallots - there are surely some specifics here, but I don't know them.

Flowering Alliums - likewise there must be some faqs for this subset

    Bookmark   August 8, 2005 at 9:31AM
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UncleJohn(z4 NH)

Another point for the FAQs: growing garlic from bulbils rather than cloves.

    Bookmark   August 13, 2005 at 10:33PM
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maggie_berry(z6CT)

What is Elephant Garlic?
When do you cut scapes and can they be eaten?
And what are like top sets?

    Bookmark   August 14, 2005 at 9:41PM
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jimster(z7a MA)

Q: How can I get my onions to grow large? I planted sets in early spring and the onions were good, but much smaller than the supermarket onions.

    Bookmark   August 17, 2005 at 1:37PM
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dannic_az(z8)

I like Uncle John's Q's. Also, what are the yields?

    Bookmark   August 19, 2005 at 8:07PM
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jimster(z7a MA)

Per Nelz's instruction in the initial post of this thread, I am 'voting' for the following questions, which I selected from several of the posts above and slightly edited. A decision will have to be made about whether to have combined or separate questions for onions and garlic.

What are alliums?

When do I plant alliums?

How is the planting bed prepared for alliums?

How deep do I plant and at what spacing?

What care (watering, fertilizing, etc.) is needed during growing?

When and how do I harvest and store alliums?

What's the difference between softneck and hardneck garlic?

What's the difference between long-day and short-day onions?

My onion/garlic tops are falling over ... what do I do?

Can I plant onions/garlic I buy at the grocery store?

Can I save seeds or bulbs for planting next year?

Jim

    Bookmark   August 21, 2005 at 9:27PM
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reginak(z7 Maryland)

As a newbie so new I'm still trying to figure out whether and which alliums to plant:

What are some good starter varieties (for my location)? (the answer, of course, distinguishing between climates) You know, a good basic sampler, some onions, some garlics, some chives, some shallots, some whatever.

How much should I plant? (plant vs. yield for various alliums)

Sets, seeds, or transplants?

Of course, hardneck vs. softneck (see, I have been reading through the forum)

Really, really basic stuff.

Can't wait till they're posted. I'm new at gardening in general, not just alliums. God bless GardenWeb.

    Bookmark   August 26, 2005 at 8:16PM
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jimster(z7a MA)

You make a good point. The FAQs should address basics -- the newbie questions. Nuances and esoteric questions don't belong there. They are for the threads.

Remember what FAQs are, *frequently* asked questions. Their purpose is to avoid large amounts of redundancy in the threads, not to provide a comprehensive reference to alliums.

Jim

    Bookmark   August 26, 2005 at 10:45PM
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UncleJohn(z4 NH)

I have only been participating in this board since the beginning of the year, and there are well over a dozen questions that have each been repeated more than once in that time. More information is not a vice.

    Bookmark   August 26, 2005 at 11:21PM
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jimster(z7a MA)

Take it away, Nelz!

Jim

    Bookmark   August 27, 2005 at 12:58PM
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TinSB(z9 CA)

Here's one more:

When do I order garlic and how do I store it until I plant it?

This FAQ is going to be great....

~Thalia

    Bookmark   August 29, 2005 at 5:23PM
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gurley157fs(zone 7/8sc)

I've seen this question more than once and I have never seen an answer;

What alliums can we grow in the hot, humid south east?
Specifically, are there any of the large 'ornamental' alliums that will thrive here?

Thanks for putting this together.

    Bookmark   August 29, 2005 at 9:20PM
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oneeagleone(5 KCMO)

RE:
Allium FAQs Progress & 1 Suggested Question

Dear Nelz & extended gardening family,

I am a gardening newbie and would like to get some onion sets planted in mid-March or so.

1. I was wondering how close you and the group are to completing the Allium FAQs.

I do have one question to add to the suggested list. Hopefully, some kind soul will answer it.

2. Are there any edible ornamental onions that reproduce by generating additional bulbettes? If not, are there any edible ornamental onions that one could reasonably eat in a survival situation that do not taste too bad?

Thank you in advance for your kind answer to these questions.

Sincerely,

Ken

OneEagleOne

Reference:
http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/allium/msg072241487269.html

    Bookmark   February 3, 2009 at 8:28AM
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bloosquall(Wa 6)

Q. what would happen if i plant different varieties next to each other.
A. it will have no effect on them.

Q. will garlic cross pollinate.
A. No.

    Bookmark   February 6, 2009 at 7:36PM
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angela12345(7b NC Mixed-Humid)

The question I came to this forum searching for the answer. I know the date I need to transplant the onions for my area.
So ... How far in advance do I need to start the seeds before my transplant date ?

    Bookmark   July 11, 2009 at 3:16AM
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climbthemtns(Zone 8 to 10)

Can someone post the link for the FAQ?
I can't find it

TIA

    Bookmark   July 15, 2009 at 5:48PM
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angela12345(7b NC Mixed-Humid)

Another question I came here looking for ...
definitions of onion terms ... what is a seed, seedling, set, bulb, bunch, transplant, scapes, other words I don't know ?

I never did find any onion seeds last year (only found seeds for what I call scallions or green onions - White Lisbon Bunching). Our local farm supply store got in bushel baskets of what looks like little miniature onions about the size of the first joint of my thumb that we could buy by the pound. I don't think they had the variety name on them, just red, yellow, and white. I am intermediate day area, so I assume they got the right ones in for our area. A few of them had shoots of green already growing from them about 1-2" long, but the guy there said not to get those. Get the ones with no green yet. I bought about 30. I am trying to do a search of how to plant them, but I don't even know what they are called. So more suggested questions ... How, when, how deep do I plant & care for each of the ways of planting onions defined above ? Water ? Fertilize ? Soak seeds ? I think I read something about cutting the tops back periodically ? When & how to harvest ? Really really really newbie questions for the FAQs.

I guess the same kind of questions for garlic though I am many months off from growing that yet.
http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/allium/msg071138544149.html
http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/allium/msg011153119044.html
http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/allium/msg0310064812977.html

    Bookmark   March 19, 2010 at 2:18PM
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MGPinSavannah

Allium newbie/failure here. Questions:

What varieties (if any) of garlic can I grow in a small garden with no shade and hellish summer temperatures?

What's the best way to store garlic (even if I'm reduced to buying it at the supermarket)?

Can I safely make "garlic oil" by putting garlic cloves in olive oil? (I read somewhere that it's not safe??)

Can/should garlic ever be refrigerated?

We LOVE garlic and I've tried more than once (admittedly with grocery store garlic) to grow it with 0% success, other than green tops. Looking forward to a garlic FAQ!

    Bookmark   March 19, 2010 at 7:42PM
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cyrus_gardner(8)

mgpaquin, the answer to your first questin is:
IT IS THE WRONG TIME TO START GROWING GARLICS IN SAVANAH, GA.
I live further north, around Atlanta. Here we plant garlics in October. They grow a little bit and overwinter
and as of March they resume growing and bulbing.
By June they will be ready for harvest, before the heat waves hit hard.

    Bookmark   March 21, 2010 at 12:30AM
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