music vs.german white..NY white vs.callifornia white

frogy(4 iowa)October 9, 2005

ive herd from sevral growers from all over the u.s. that music and german white are the same thing.i do know that german white is allso called german extra hardy.i bought 1 bulb of music at a markit to compare with my german white and they certinly look the same and taste the same to me.i know german white is a hard neck and i think music is a hard neck allso.ok,ok,ok, same ?? with new york white.is NY white the same as german white??is new york white a hard neck (i think it is)or is NY white the same as callifornia white? (but i think callifornia white is a soft neck)annyone got anny input on this?thanks

frog

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frogy(4 iowa)

....or is NY white the same as german white????

    Bookmark   October 9, 2005 at 2:15PM
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username_5(banned for no reason)

If you ask me (and I guess you kind of did ;-) many varieties of garlic are the exact same thing genetically, just grown in different places. Depending on where it is grown and the soil and other conditions the exact same garlic can show variances.

Look at it this way. If it tastes the same when eaten raw and looks the same and grows the same, what's the real difference?

Nothing important, that's for sure ;-)

Having said that, I don't know the claimed lineage for the varieties you named so I can't say for certain.

    Bookmark   October 9, 2005 at 10:24PM
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glane1219(northern OK.)

Hi, I think that I read somewhere that New York White is also known as Polish White and I grow both Polish White and German Extra Hardy and they both are differant varieties for sure as they do not look the same as Polish White has 10 to 15 cloves in several layers and the German Extra Hardy has 5 to 8 large cloves in 1 layer.
Hope this helps- Gary

    Bookmark   October 9, 2005 at 11:50PM
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frogy(4 iowa)

thanks for the input folks.it gives me something to ponder.annyone eles got anny ideas on this?
frog

    Bookmark   October 10, 2005 at 1:07AM
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paquebot(Z-4b WI)

Music is supposedly of Italian origin. Therefore it would not seem plausible to think of it as being the same as a German variety. Many garlic varieties have a nearly identical bulb but may have entirely different bulbils. If both bulbs and bulbils are identical, then one may assume that two varieties are either the same or very closely related.

Martin

    Bookmark   October 10, 2005 at 11:34AM
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garliclady(z7 NC)

I thought that New york white was a soft neck(artichoke type) and CA white was a silverskinype soft neck . Neither like Music a hardneck porcelain?

    Bookmark   October 10, 2005 at 10:49PM
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garliclady(z7 NC)

New York White is called Polish white and IS a artichoke type softneck. CA white is a silverskin soft neck. see this link about NY White http://www.southernexposure.com/productlist/prods/65107.html

    Bookmark   October 10, 2005 at 10:59PM
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