Lantana out - verbena in?

gem1(w.phx 9)August 13, 2005

I am so ready to pull out the lantana that is in my front yard. I'd love to replace with verbena, I think... Any thoughts about that? Suggestions as to type, etc...

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Easygoing(Sunset zone 13)

Why dont' you like your lantana. I've had both, and prefer the lantana way more than verbena. Verbena tends to get real rough looking during the hottest part of the summer. Now I'm talking in full sun. It might hold up better with afternoon dappled light. Plus so many more wonderful colors of Lantana to choose from than there is in the verbena.

easy

    Bookmark   August 13, 2005 at 5:23PM
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gem1(w.phx 9)

My tree has gotten big enough to shade the lantana so that it gets really straggly with no blooms. Thought the verbena might work, but maybe I will rethink if verbena gets ugly too!

    Bookmark   August 13, 2005 at 6:46PM
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kazooie(kapiti coast, NZ)

yes, my gold lantanas love this heat and full sun. they are blooming like crazy! the purple ones seem to like the shadier spots and do better there then in the full sun. i have had verbena, in both shady spots and mostly full sun (late afternoon shade) and they have struggled in both spots. i think the ones in the sun got fried and the ones in the shade got a little too soggy in the location i had them.

have you tried trimming your lantana way back after winter? i usually cut them almost to the ground after the chance of frost and they come back just as vigorous and full bloom like the year before.

i know some people don't like the lantanas (you see them everywhere), but they sure have been a reliable source of color in my yard durring these hot summer months and can take a lot of abuse.

    Bookmark   August 13, 2005 at 8:37PM
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usha(z8AZ,Nscottsdal)

Lacy verbena usually dies off in summer but will come back in fall. However, it naturalizes and may not stay in the area that you want it in. Sandpaper verbena usually stays and will be fine but will also naturalize. If you want ground cover for shady areas..you can try ice plants, vinca minor, wedelia, hearts&flowers, wandering jew..etc.

    Bookmark   August 13, 2005 at 9:06PM
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Pagancat(Phoenix, AZ)

... or interplant your lantana with verbena! They're really different plants; the verbena is a short-lived but re-seeding plant. The variety of colors you can get it in is as nice as the lantana (light & dark purples, red, white, pink, etc.) and I prefer the texture, but it doesn't get as big, either.

I agree with Usha's suggestions, and would add the Artemesias - both "Powis Castle" (silver) and "Limelight", a variegated green and yellow plant that doesn't mound like Powis castle. Also, for shady areas, Sanseveria (usually the indoor plant called "mother-in-law's-tongue") does really well here, and more places are carrying many different cultivars. It's not a ground cover, but will add some interest with its taller spikes.

HTH!

    Bookmark   August 13, 2005 at 9:46PM
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judy_b(AZ zone 9)

Here's some verbena that we let grow in our backyard. DH just mows around it.

    Bookmark   August 14, 2005 at 4:22PM
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Pagancat(Phoenix, AZ)

So pretty.... must not taste so good, the sheep doesn't like it, huh?

    Bookmark   August 14, 2005 at 8:41PM
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judy_b(AZ zone 9)

Yeah, it must be really nasty for those girls to leave it. They nibble the bermuda from around it. The "goaty" girls like to lay in it, not Ethel, of course, she likes nice dry dirt. In the shade.

    Bookmark   August 14, 2005 at 8:51PM
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Easygoing(Sunset zone 13)

Oh my gosh...a HUGE yard....drool! ;)

Easy

    Bookmark   August 15, 2005 at 9:17AM
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Carrie_AZ(9/10 AZ)

I like the way you can prune the latana into hedges. It is a nice plant for our heat I also like the latana with all the colors the pink,yellow mixture. It is one reliable plant that puts color in the garden without a lot of work. I have a few purple ones in pots, but my daughter has them in her yard pruned into hedges and I like the look of it, also she has some boginvilla inter twined with the lantana it looks good. I like verbena too, I can't believe Judy has it growing in the heat of the summer without shade, she must live where it is cooler. I like verbena in hanging baskets.
I don't see why you can't keep both plants together it might look pretty growing in the verbena.
Carrie

    Bookmark   August 16, 2005 at 4:48AM
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judy_b(AZ zone 9)

Carrie, it's PLENTY hot here in NE Phoenix! >:( I think what happens to the verbena is that some die in the heat but others come up and start growing as they are allowed to go where they want. Maybe also being in the grass keeps them going a little longer.

    Bookmark   August 16, 2005 at 1:23PM
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Pagancat(Phoenix, AZ)

LOL - once it tops 110, I think it qualifies as hot, 3 straight days of 115 was enough to make just about anything wilt,*especially* me.

I think Judy hit the nail on the head with the tendency of the verbena to re-seed; I believe plants grown in their homes tend to acclimate much better than something grown elsewhere. And the grass shading roots and holding moisture in doesn't hurt, either.

I have a few Lantanas - a purple, a yellow/orange and tons of volunteer pink/ yellows from my neighbor. With as reliable as they are for color and tolerance, they get used almost EVERYWHERE ... so I'm also heartily sick of them. Any creative way of using them is a relief.

    Bookmark   August 16, 2005 at 2:22PM
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magnetogram(z9 Tucson, AZ)

has anyone heard of santos rough verbena? i picked up a 1-gal at walmart for $3.52. good price for 1-gal container plants.

detrick

    Bookmark   August 17, 2005 at 10:05AM
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Pagancat(Phoenix, AZ)

What color is it? Picture, hmm?

    Bookmark   August 17, 2005 at 12:17PM
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