The Official AZ Tropical Fruit Trees Thread

kccav(z9 AZ)December 9, 2010

Sorry for the monopoly on threads today. If anybody wants to share a pic of their tropical fruit trees or their thoughts and experiences on what you are growing ie.,how well your tree does in are AZ environment. Iam growing a Bailey's Marvel and Manila mango tree, just planted in June. Protected it against last weeks freeze and future freezes. A mexican guava seedling, about 5 foot tall I got from AZ Rare Fruit Growers plant sale last year. Papaya trees from seed that are about 4 foot tall now and also protected from last weeks freeze and future freezes. Starfruit also does well here.

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agility_mom(z9 AZ)

Don't be sorry! It is nice to have some fresh posts. Of course I am partial to this topic since it my newest garden focus.
The Tropical plants that I am growing are 14 various citrus trees, Dragonfruit, Papaya, 3 different varieties of bananas, some pineapples that I started, 2 different white Guavas, 2 Surinam Cherry Bushes, 2 Cherry of the Rio Grande, a Frederick Passion fruit, a Glenn Mango, a Mexicola Avocado, A Kari Starfruit, a Jelly Palm, A Big Jim Loquat, a Li Jujube and an Allspice bush. Of course that's not counting the Bouganvillas and Lantanas.
I just started planting this stuff last Spring and did some more planting this fall. I protected some of the things that I planted by using shade cloth for their first summer. As soon as they are older and my micro-climates mature, I shouldn't have to do that. It wasn't a big deal though and everything came through the summer beautifully.
It has been a lot of work to set up the frost protection but now that I have it set up, it's easy.
Since it's a relatively new pursuit, I don't have much to report but I love to hear from the people that are experienced with tropical plants since it is kind of like blazing new trails. I need all of the help that I can get.
kccav, do you have a wish list for more tropical, fruiting plants?

    Bookmark   December 10, 2010 at 4:36PM
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euqruob(Phoenix, AZ)

I have an Edulis and Frederick Passion fruit, 6 dragon fruit (1 rosa, 3 red, 2 white), 1 Ice Cream Banana, 1 Manila Mango (still not planted), 6 Bamboo (2 Buddah's Belly, 1 Giant Timber, 1 Golden Goddess, 1 Silverstripe and 1 Alphonse Karr),4 Plumeria, 1 Surinam Cherry and 1 Sanguinelli Blood Orange.

More to come.

    Bookmark   December 11, 2010 at 2:27AM
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phxplantaddict

Jaboticaba(3-10 year old, 16-2 year old), 112 plumeria, 14 15-30 foot green timber bamboo, lots of bananas, mangos,guavas(pink, white,yellow,large african red), 25 avocados, surinam and rio grande cherry, loquat, longan, lychee, sugarcane, persimmon, coffee, silk floss tree, ice cream bean tree, passion fruit, cherimoya, atemoya, mulberry, dragonfruit, 16 champaca trees, starfruit, jackfruit, pineapple, gardenia, mandevilla, angels trumpet, goji berry, carob, black and white sapote, curry, jujube, gum tree,

    Bookmark   December 11, 2010 at 11:33AM
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kccav(z9 AZ)

phxplantaddict are you the one who host the phoenix tropicals website? If so that is the site and the AZRFG orginazation that got me thinkin' it can be a reality in AZ to grow tropicals here. Your list of plants is huge! Maybe you can post a link to your utube yard vids here. Man, that is so cool that there other people like us out here in this hot desert that are making are own tropical paradise reality for ourselves here. I'm impressed by all your trop. plants everybody!!

A. Mom , you know how it is. You have a little success with one tropical plant, then you want them all. Lately I'm really into Bahinea Blackinea, Getting more different varieties of mangoes. I'm really into Passi's. now. Thank you for asking. If anyone has pics of their plants please post on here so we can all enjoy and comment on.

    Bookmark   December 14, 2010 at 7:52PM
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agility_mom(z9 AZ)

phxplantaddict, you have several of the plants on my wish list!

I love the Phoenix Tropicals site. It is great to see someone successfully growing the tropicals. On the Tropica Mango site there are pictures and videos too.

    Bookmark   December 15, 2010 at 1:52AM
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norm52

Hello ,
Read that someone might have yellow Jaboticaba seed and wonder If you would consider parting with a few seeds
Ursula
culejools@yahoo.ca

    Bookmark   April 13, 2011 at 11:38PM
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desert_dawg(9b)

I have 10 Avocados, 2 on Zutano rootstock & 8 on Lula. I'm letting one of them carry a few fruit for the first time this year. 5 Royal Lee cherries & 2 Minnie Royal cherries on both Mazzard & the new dwarfing rootstock C3R178 which is the most vigorous thing in the yard so far this year. I hope it holds up in the heat. I had a few cherries last year, but am really excited about them with this new rootstock. Cocktail trees of apple, asian pear & peach. Desert Delight & Snow Queen nectarine. Santa Rosa, Burgandy, Methley & Inca plums. Pink Lady apple. Misty, O'neil, Sharp Blue and Sunshine Blue blueberries. Dwarf Cavendish banana. Lisbon Lemon, Bearss Lime, Tangelo & W. Murcott citrus. Four or five varieties of seedless grapes. I lost a Nam Doc Mai Mango in the freeze this winter, even though it was covered. It's like a fever, one you get started, its hard to stop. The grandkids love the fruit though.

    Bookmark   April 14, 2011 at 12:36AM
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desert_dawg(9b)

Oh yeah, I left out Spice Zee Necta-Plum. I heard they were tasty. I planted it bare root this year. I think I might be a plant hoarder..........

    Bookmark   April 14, 2011 at 12:44AM
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agility_mom(z9 AZ)

Dawg, I am trying the Minnie Royal and Royal Lee on Mazzard too. So far, so good. I am getting my west side shade set ups ready to help them and all of my other new plants make it through the first two summers.
I didn't get the M.R. and R.L. cherry trees on the dwarfing root stock but I did get a Stella and Lapins Cherries as dwarfs.
Luckily, I didn't have any cold damage to most of my tropical fruiting plants. They were covered to the ground and had old fashioned Christmas lights on them or at the base for supplemental heat.
I also planted a Spice Zee but it never leafed out so the nursery is to get me another for next Spring. Please let me know how that one does.

    Bookmark   April 14, 2011 at 11:16AM
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desert_dawg(9b)

My Spice-Zee was one of the last things to bloom & still hasn't completely leafed out. I won't let it carry fruit this year, but I am liking the leaf colors. It definitely stands out. I think it comes on citation which is not the best of rootstocks for dry climates. I know the only cherry I lost was the Zee Stem on Citation. I also tried to plant them without shade on the west which I'm sure was a big contributor, but the Mazzard ones did survive. The ones on the new dwarfing stock are really loving life so far. I have three of them and they are way ahead of the four Mazzard as far as new growth is concerned. I can't imagine that they will only get 8-9' without pruning, they have already grown 18" since I put them in the ground in January.

    Bookmark   April 14, 2011 at 5:30PM
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euqruob(Phoenix, AZ)

I have 5 varieties of Bamboo, several dragon fruit, manilla mango, frederick and edulis passion fruit (blooming now), blood orange, suriname cherry, dwarf cavendish banana and some Hawaiian papaya seedlings going. Want to plant longan and starfruit! Also have some plumeria that have awakened from the dead.

    Bookmark   April 14, 2011 at 11:56PM
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agility_mom(z9 AZ)

I have never seen a Spice Zee tree but by the description, it sounds gorgeous.
Growing 18" does sound like a lot for a dwarf.

So far this Spring the tropical or unusual plants that I have added are Sherwood Jujube, Suebelle White Sapote, Goji, Manila Mango, 2 Timotayo Mangoes, a Gold Nugget Mango, a Pickering Mango, Trovita Orange, an Izu Persimmon and 3 figs, Black Jack, Kadota and a Panache Tiger.

    Bookmark   April 15, 2011 at 11:40AM
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zone10aridgardener

I have two dragonfruit cacti (dark star, purple haze) tropic pink guava which has been in the ground for a month and is already blooming :) flame seedless grape, southern belle nectarine, manila mango, and a puple passion fruit.

Has anyone gotten fruit from dragon fruit here?

    Bookmark   April 20, 2011 at 12:32AM
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phxplantaddict

I have. Dragonfruit fruits best with filtered sun and a support. Little water

    Bookmark   April 20, 2011 at 1:07AM
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zone10aridgardener

Good because thats what I have been doing. What variety do you have and how does it taste?

    Bookmark   April 20, 2011 at 9:34PM
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amrkhalido

Hey guys,

What varieties of lychee and jackfruit and longan goes well with the little humidity and the hot dry weather you have ,,

I live in Egypt and face lots of hot and dry weather that is killing my lychees and longan ,, and it seem we share the same weather ,,

Any suggestions ,,

Thanks, Amr

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phxplantaddict

Our winter gets the jackfruit. Kohala longan do very well here, can pretty much be neglected. Brewster lychee does so-so. LOTS OF MULCH!

    Bookmark   June 28, 2011 at 5:10PM
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amrkhalido

Thanks phxplantaddict ,,

You mean that jackfruit survives hot and dry ,,
And lychee brewster is the only variety that can be grown ,,

Amr

    Bookmark   June 29, 2011 at 1:24PM
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phxplantaddict

I mean that those are my personal experience. I have not tried the other lychee types

    Bookmark   June 29, 2011 at 2:56PM
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amrkhalido

Have u heard about Kaimana variety ,,

Amr

    Bookmark   June 29, 2011 at 6:29PM
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phxplantaddict

Have not

    Bookmark   June 30, 2011 at 1:45AM
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amrkhalido

Thanks phxplantaddict :D

    Bookmark   June 30, 2011 at 12:24PM
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Kristen_keepahead_org

I live in Carefree, a microclimate a bit cooler than downtown Phoenix -- 2400 feet.

I took down a few large eucalyptus trees on the south side of the drive and the subsequent sun is overwhelming. One of the larger trees removed was planted in an impression about six feet lower than the surrounding area, in a circle about 50 feet in diameter. In this impression, I'd like to plant a new tree that grows very large and provides shade. I'm thinking that the lowness of the impression will pool cold air in the winter, so a tree that is cold-hardy and wind-tolerant would be best. I'd love to grow a fig, for example. Any recommendations as to fig variety or other fruit trees?

Also, will a loquat thrive up here?

    Bookmark   July 3, 2011 at 4:12PM
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phxplantaddict

Loquat would do very well. Cold hardy down to 10. Delicious too. Also green timber bamboo

    Bookmark   July 4, 2011 at 12:55AM
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azbookworm

How do your tropicals handle this hot sun? I have a couple of avocado plants in containers and they could not handle direct sun. I had to put them under the patio cover. We want to be able to plant inground soon but ???

    Bookmark   July 22, 2011 at 9:08PM
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azbookworm

I finally pulled my container Avocado plants indoors. 1 is almost dead. The other two are suffering. I hope to give them a chance to leaf out again.

    Bookmark   August 7, 2011 at 12:29AM
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euqruob(Phoenix, AZ)

Lost one of my passion fruit, it was quite large, last summer it survived by climbing into a neighbor's tree, this year I had it trellised against the wall, got too hot for it. What is really growing well is Mexican Papaya, very happy with its growth. I've started several Taro plants, beautiful leaves. Got some ginger growing, and have some yellow and some blue ginger planted. Bamboo put out a massive shoot, 3 weeks and about 7.5 feet tall and growing....

    Bookmark   August 7, 2011 at 2:34PM
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phxplantaddict

You can come see my avocado trees in pots and ground. There are some tricks to growing them here that the nurserys dont know. Where did you get yours? Come over anytime 602-434-5641

    Bookmark   August 8, 2011 at 1:33AM
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azbookworm

Grown from store bought fruit. One is from FL. Other two are from CA.

You know...put seed in glass of water and watch it grow. Moved the plants from VA to AZ. Kept them indoors 1st summer. Outdoors during winter. All good. I was wondering if they would be able to handle the hotter temps.

I keep talking to them. Maybe they'll be ok. ;-)

    Bookmark   August 8, 2011 at 2:42PM
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AZSandman

Hi everyone,

I'm new here, but I've been gleaning quite a bit of good info over the past few years, so I figured it's time to join in! This looks like a great thread to revive and post a couple of questions.

Does anyone have any experience with growing Jamacian cherries (Muntingia calabura) in the Phoenix area? I'm looking at planting some new trees, and this one really sounds interesting. I'm mostly wondering how well it handles the scorching summers, and how mature such a tree needs to be so that it's not so cold-tender (i.e. too large to cover).

Also, has anyone had successful experience growing Surinam cherries (Eugenia uniflora) in Phoenix? I had one for two years a few years back, but I think the sun got to it. I'm hoping to learn from that and any tips, and try one again this year.

I am looking to plant both of these trees in the ground - the first one in the open (no shade), the second one under some filtered shade of a large mesquite tree. There are a lot of other subtropical trees that sound just a bit too tender for our winters, but I may get brave enough to try them eventually. I do have a 4-year old loquat, and am planting 2 mangos. Also I'm trying "companion planting" with 3 guava (Psidium guajava) varieties.

Thanks for your time! Now to find the fig forum.....

Rob

    Bookmark   March 5, 2012 at 11:16PM
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phxplantaddict

As far as tropical cherries go I grow Surinam, Pitomba, cherry of the rio grande, and Barbados. Some 2 ft. some 8 ft big bushes.

    Bookmark   March 7, 2012 at 12:20AM
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AZSandman

Oh good. So it sounds like they've been growing well if they're up to 8' tall. I'm going to plant 1-2 under a mesquite tree, later this year. Hopefully the filtered light will make the summer more bearable. And if they're not too tall, I can cover them pretty easily when it gets cold. I believe they're cold hardy down to the upper 20s? Does the fruit taste good? It looks tasty in the photos I've seen online.

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AZSandman

Oh good. So it sounds like they've been growing well if they're up to 8' tall. I'm going to plant 1-2 under a mesquite tree, later this year. Hopefully the filtered light will make the summer more bearable. And if they're not too tall, I can cover them pretty easily when it gets cold. I believe they're cold hardy down to the upper 20s? Does the fruit taste good? It looks tasty in the photos I've seen online.

    Bookmark   March 9, 2012 at 9:23PM
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zone10aridgardener

Guamuchil
Lemon
Orange
10 different dragon fruit plants
Gold finger banana
Pomegranate
Loquat
Pineapple guava
Grape
Nectarine
Honeydew
Watermelon
Passion fruit
Blackberry
Guava
Plum

    Bookmark   March 14, 2012 at 7:48PM
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azbookworm

Pineapple plants?!?! Shade or full sun??

I have one growing in the house. Need to transplant into bigger pot or outside. I grew it from a store bought fruit top.

Please advise. Thanks!

    Bookmark   May 20, 2013 at 2:56PM
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azbolt

Pineapple should do ok with some sun, I have some growing on the east side of my house where they get morning and early afternoon sun, then shade the rest of the day.

Kevin

    Bookmark   May 20, 2013 at 4:18PM
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nickw252

I have 2 rajapuri bananas I planted this spring. They've grown a lot since planting them but sure don't like the hot sun. I'll post pics soon.

    Bookmark   May 21, 2013 at 12:33AM
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calb_gardner

I just put up a post regarding a low litter tree to put by my pond area. I also Have One navel orange, a Mexican key-lime , A mission fig and a Guava growing in my yard. A Large tropical tree would be fantastic over there. What would your best suggestions be. Thank you very much

    Bookmark   May 21, 2013 at 11:55AM
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Raimeiken - z9b - Peoria, AZ

You could try a Loquat. Although it would take years for it to grow large. It's got big leaves, put out great tasting fruit, plus the cold here will not be a problem at all. It can withstand temps in the low 20s without protection. It'll need some sun protection during the summer though for the first few years.

    Bookmark   May 21, 2013 at 12:24PM
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nickw252

Rajapuri banana. I planted it this spring. It's about 4 ft tall.

    Bookmark   May 22, 2013 at 9:54PM
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nickw252

Other Rajapuri banana. I planted it this spring. It's also about 4 ft tall.

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euqruob(Phoenix, AZ)

I bought a Rajapuri a few months ago, it had 3 pups! Just separated 2 of them and replanted. Last one needs to grow a bit. The Raja grows very fast...great banana.

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jacaranda4321

Bump

    Bookmark   September 29, 2013 at 8:06PM
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jacaranda4321

Tropical plants

    Bookmark   September 29, 2013 at 8:09PM
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TamTrible(9)

I recently planted a post asking about my lychee seedling, mango seedling, and young pomegranate tree and a low-light spot in my front yard. If anyone has advice...

Here is a link that might be useful: the post in question

    Bookmark   October 7, 2013 at 2:09AM
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Raimeiken - z9b - Peoria, AZ

Bumping this post up. How's everyone's tropical fruit trees/plants doing? Any updates on the Raja puri bananas? I have a small pup that I got this past fall plant sale. I'm still debating on where to plant it. All my other bananas are doing great, getting lots of new big leaves on them. Should I separate the pups from the mother corm? I have at least five in each corm that I have and most are over 6-7ft tall.

I'd like to see some of your guys' trees. It's always fun and encouraging to see other people's mature tropical fruit trees doing well here in the valley.

    Bookmark   February 11, 2015 at 3:59PM
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Raimeiken - z9b - Peoria, AZ

Shamus is opening this coming weekend by the way. He's gonna have a lot of new tropical fruit trees available. I'm thinking of grabbing a Aravaipa Avocado from him and try it out. So far from what I've heard that this variety does well here in Arizona. It takes the heat pretty well according to him. He sold out of them last fall, and they might go quick again this spring.

    Bookmark   February 11, 2015 at 4:19PM
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asudevil311 - zone 9b

When are you going?

    Bookmark   February 11, 2015 at 6:22PM
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azbolt

Shamus?

    Bookmark   February 11, 2015 at 6:25PM
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Raimeiken - z9b - Peoria, AZ

Saturday is when he reopens, so there's probably going to be a lot of people there. But I'll try to swing by after work.

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Raimeiken - z9b - Peoria, AZ

Here's the link to his facebook page. "Like" it, he regularly updates it and shows what he has in stock. He sells all kinds of different tropical plants and fruit trees that we wouldn't normally find at local nurseries. Very reasonable prices too.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Shamus-OLearys-Tropical-Fruit-Trees/469661096392272

    Bookmark   February 11, 2015 at 6:30PM
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cwlucking

So, is the address on the Facebook page (3601 W Kings Ave, Phoenix) the address of the nursery? It looks like a residence on googlemaps.

    Bookmark   February 12, 2015 at 9:32PM
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Raimeiken - z9b - Peoria, AZ

yes that's the address. he operates from his backyard. The time he's open varies, so I would ask him on there or text/call him before coming over. But this coming Saturday and Sunday he's open from 10am-3pm

    Bookmark   February 13, 2015 at 3:13AM
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cwlucking

So, did anyone here score one of the Aravaipa Avocados?
I got a Ruby Supreme Guava and a starfruit tree. What an extraordinary place Shamus has!! I

    Bookmark   February 15, 2015 at 10:09PM
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Raimeiken - z9b - Peoria, AZ

I wasn't able to go because of work. I'll try and swing by there sometime this week though.

    Bookmark   February 16, 2015 at 4:07AM
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cwlucking

Anyone know where in town to get a Mexican Cream guava? Shamus only has (or had) huge ones - too big for me.

    Bookmark   on Thursday at 12:51PM
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Raimeiken - z9b - Peoria, AZ

what size are you looking for? Lowes and HD sometimes gets them, i would check with them to see when they get any guavas. Each location is different too. I've seen some Red Malaysian ones last year at the lowes in Lake pleasant area. OR you can ask Shamus to stock up on smaller size next time he goes over to Florida.

Speaking of Shamus, I went by there a few days ago and picked me up a 7gal Coconut Cream Mango:

I was wanting a Lemon Zest Mango also but he ran out of the 7gal size, all he had left were small 3gal.

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