I think this is the REAL pixie

macroclemysNovember 27, 2013

I don't want to get my hopes up just yet, but I think this is the real pixie. The coloration looks right, the petals are narrow and starting to look frilly around the edges. I will upload other photos when it opens.

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kaboehm (zone 9a, TX USA)

Did you look at the description for Trentino on the Hadeco site?
Colour:
Cream with a soft red border
Image from site attached.

Pixie was yellow as I recall.....
K

    Bookmark   November 27, 2013 at 5:10PM
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dondeldux

Well whatever it is and it does look like Trentino, it's certainly better than just a small plain white! And you've got 4 flowers! Mine are just up about 1" so how did you get yours to bloom so fast? Be sure to post pictures when it is fully open; we can't wait to see it.

Donna

    Bookmark   November 27, 2013 at 5:41PM
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macroclemys

Kristi, you are dashing my hopes. Darn. I should have noticed the resemblance since my Trentino just finished blooming. And the worst of it, I found Trentino to be one of the most drab of the Hippeastrums I have. Other than having a high bud count (7 on the first scape) I was not very impressed by it. But I am not yet giving up hope on the Pixie!

    Bookmark   November 27, 2013 at 5:46PM
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macroclemys

Donna,
I think I would rather a small plain white. The Molto Belo I ordered last year did not bloom. I am hoping it blooms this year, but it did not produce many leaves this summer, so I am doubtful.

    Bookmark   November 27, 2013 at 6:17PM
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kaboehm (zone 9a, TX USA)

But just think of the possible crosses to produce many small blooms per scape!!

Just giving you a reality check. Prove me wrong... Please!
K

    Bookmark   November 27, 2013 at 6:47PM
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macroclemys

Trentino it is. A disappointment after getting my hopes up, but since I have another of these, at least now I can risk one by leaving it in the ground all winter next year to test its hardiness. Meanwhile, I hope my other "Pixie" turns out to be something different.

    Bookmark   November 29, 2013 at 6:41PM
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kaboehm (zone 9a, TX USA)

I think it's pretty, but not H. Pixie. Guess we'll have to wait a little longer for that one. At least it really is H. Trentino and not just some small white!
K

    Bookmark   December 1, 2013 at 3:31PM
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mariava7

My Not Pixie buds are out! No pink picotee like yours so I guess they will be white. I was kinda wishing they'd be Trentinos likewise as white is not my favorite Hippie color. Will see what these white sonatinis can offer us...

    Bookmark   December 6, 2013 at 12:26PM
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dragonstone

Whoa! Those flower stalks sure are tall for a mini! Unfortunately my "Pixie Bust" didn't have a flower stalk. It decided to work on leaves.

Really am curious to see what everyone else's are like.

    Bookmark   December 6, 2013 at 12:39PM
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mariava7

I got 5 of them and only one did not put out a scape. Here are the buds today. Will post a pic once they open.

    Bookmark   December 6, 2013 at 12:47PM
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macroclemys

My second one is at about the same stage as yours and looks to have about the same coloration. I really like white blooms when they are a nice, crisp white. My first Trentino (not the one bought as Pixie) was more of a dull cream color with barely a hint of pink. But I have to admit that I came to like Trentino more the second time. I am looking forward to seeing what you get.

    Bookmark   December 6, 2013 at 2:37PM
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jstropic

Two of my three 'not pixie' bulbs bloomed white with a green throat (third grew leaves). Maybe Baby Doll? I actually like this one especially as it puts out a nice display with the three small/tiny bulbs in one pot. The pristine white lets me put it in any color pot and the small size takes up little space - I hope this one stays small. Funny how things work out as I would not have bought this one but I'm glad I have it.
-J

    Bookmark   December 6, 2013 at 4:58PM
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kaboehm (zone 9a, TX USA)

I did read last night that the sonatinis grow extra long scapes as they are really grown for cut flowers. Mine is growing at least 2" a day!

Also, they save all sorts of money on shipping such small bulbs. They grow them 45-60 bulbs / m^2. WOW!!!
K

    Bookmark   December 6, 2013 at 5:33PM
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mariava7

I used to love the sonatinis, both Hadeco and the Dutch ones. I practically bought every single variety available then. They would perform well for me upon planting and give out 2/3 scapes from those tiny bulbs. After that is another story though. Some of them would not root out or leaf out well for me in the first growing season. Second growing season, a lot of them would go to Hippie heaven already. Perhaps it's my too cold and long winter growing conditions. Anyone of you grown and consistently bloomed these sonatinis for several seasons already? I would appreciate some tips if ever. Several of the Komoriya varieties also have tiny bulbs and flowers like these sonatinis. I would hate to see them go to Hippie heaven likewise.

    Bookmark   December 6, 2013 at 9:26PM
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macroclemys

Maria,
Next time you have a poorly rooted bulb that is flowering and shriveling, try this. If you can get a syringe and needle, inject some water or a weak nutrient solution into the scape. I started doing this last year with my bulbs that were in poor shape and sometimes with healthy bulbs as well. A few weeks ago I posted a picture of a sonatini (Ballerina) that arrived will a circumference of 16 cm, but shriveled to less than 11 cm during flowering. Since then, I injected the scapes with some water and it quickly plumped up to more than 13 cm. It was too quick to be true growth, so it must have been rehydration of the bulb scales.
If you are attempting to obtain seed from the flowers, I recommend injecting only a small amount of water at a time (maybe 1 ml). If you fill the scape with a lot of water, it can go mushy before the seeds mature. If you add a little at a time, you can use the same injection hole each time.
The plant certainly takes up water this way if the scape is still green, but I cannot be certain that any of the nutrients are taken up. They probably are, in the same way that leaves can take up nutrients during foliar feeding. With foliar feeding, the water-impermeable cuticle is the main obstacle to nutrient uptake. But the inside of the scape has no cuticle, and the cells that line its inner surface should have direct access to the solution.
I did this with three sonatini last year. Since then Grafitti and Hot lips grew a lot. I didn't measure the bulbs, but Hot Lips has probably doubled in circumference (and it had 12 leaves in August). Molto Belo was in the worse shape (the scape extended, but the flowers never opened). It has grown only a small amount, but is otherwise very healthy and has produced at least one offset.
GIve it a try sometime when you have a poorly rooted bulb. If you doubt that the plant would recover without some kind of intervention, then you don't have anything to lose.

Bill

    Bookmark   December 7, 2013 at 5:40AM
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jstropic

Wow Bill - thanks for this info - would never have thought to do this. I have wondered if these small bulbs need to be fed more heavily as they don't have the storage capacity of the large bulbs and yet they push out flowers. If this method would help them stop shrinking until they get a decent root system that would be great.
Thanks again for sharing with all of us.
-J

    Bookmark   December 7, 2013 at 9:02AM
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macroclemys

I just checked my records from last year, and I did measure two of the bulbs. Both Grafitti and Hot Lips had circumferences of 14-15 cm. I remeasured them just now and Hot Lips is at 26 cm and Grafitti is 21 cm. I am not sure why I did not measure Molto Belo last year, but I recall it was about the same size as the other two. It now is 17 cm. I am hooked on these little bulbs, but it is too early to see if I can get them to produce as many scapes as Hadeco does. According to their page, these sizes should produce at least 2 scapes each.

    Bookmark   December 7, 2013 at 10:24AM
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macroclemys

My second not-Pixie also turned out to be Trentino. Darn. Maria, what did you get?

    Bookmark   December 9, 2013 at 9:24AM
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mariava7

Thanks for that tip Bill. I just might try it with these Pixie Nots! The first flower of my Pixie Nots is now in horizontal position so it should be opening up soon. They are definitely Trentino Nots likewise! LOL

    Bookmark   December 9, 2013 at 10:15AM
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Tigrica

Anybody else have theirs bloom? Mine is just starting to open up and I think it will be pure white. I'll post a picture later.

    Bookmark   December 13, 2013 at 4:21PM
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kaboehm (zone 9a, TX USA)

No signs of a picotee edge on mine.....
K

    Bookmark   December 13, 2013 at 6:41PM
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macroclemys

After taking a closer look at mine, I see that my second one is probably not Trentino. It looks a lot like Baby Doll, which has a more faint pink edge and deeper green throat.

    Bookmark   December 14, 2013 at 4:45AM
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dondeldux

I wonder what's wrong with mine? They seem to be stuck at this stage for the last few weeks?!!

Donna

    Bookmark   December 14, 2013 at 7:55AM
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mariava7

Am reposting this in here as my earlier post ended up in the Sweet Lillian thread. So strange!
Here are my mislabeled Pixies...Baby Dolls for sure!

    Bookmark   December 16, 2013 at 11:47AM
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Tigrica

In the beginning I thought mine would be pure white, but looks like there is a faint pink line on the edge.

    Bookmark   December 19, 2013 at 1:37AM
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Tigrica

Ok, this is mine. The quality is bad though. Is it also a Baby Doll?

    Bookmark   December 23, 2013 at 2:02PM
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kaboehm (zone 9a, TX USA)

I'm guessing H. Trentino due to the edging!
K

    Bookmark   December 23, 2013 at 4:29PM
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mariava7

Hope this helps...

    Bookmark   December 29, 2013 at 12:12AM
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macroclemys

Thanks, that certainly helps me. I was uncertain because Baby Doll also has a faint pink edge. It now seems certain that I have one of each.

    Bookmark   December 29, 2013 at 7:34AM
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kaboehm (zone 9a, TX USA)

Well dang!!! My blooms didn't have any sort of faint pink edge... They were just white with a green throat. Mine looked just like Maria's, which she had labeled as H. Baby Doll. Maria, did your H. Baby Doll blooms also have a pink edge?
Hmmmm! Just went to the Hadeco site, and you really have to look hard to see any pink! My blooms have faded so I've missed the chance to look any closer!
Kristi

    Bookmark   December 29, 2013 at 8:13AM
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agapanthe64

Here's my old trentino (not one of our pixie bulbs)

    Bookmark   December 29, 2013 at 1:32PM
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agapanthe64

and my old Baby Doll.

My pixie were Baby Doll too

    Bookmark   December 29, 2013 at 1:34PM
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kaboehm (zone 9a, TX USA)

Maybe because mine were continually backlit in the GH window, I just didn't notice any pink. Hurumph.
K

    Bookmark   December 29, 2013 at 2:33PM
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Tigrica

Thank you, Maria! If judging by the flower shape - mine is baby doll...
Rimma

    Bookmark   December 30, 2013 at 4:23AM
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kaboehm (zone 9a, TX USA)

Rimma, good point!! Shape-based analysis would suggest mine were as well.
K

    Bookmark   December 30, 2013 at 6:31AM
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dondeldux

Well, no analysis possible on mine, I think they're crapping out! They ain't a growin!

    Bookmark   December 30, 2013 at 11:37AM
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kaboehm (zone 9a, TX USA)

Wonder why yours are in a holding pattern??

    Bookmark   December 30, 2013 at 4:52PM
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Tigrica

Maybe it's a bad piece of advice, Donna, but I had the same problem with mine.... Until I accidentally overwatered them. The water was warm and the plants were inside right by the window in a sunny place.

    Bookmark   December 31, 2013 at 4:50PM
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dondeldux

Well, maybe you're right Rimma; I haven't been watering them as I don't think they've got any roots( I actually haven't checked lately,) What do I have to loose? Actually they are on top of a TV (one of the old fashioned ones that some you you have probably never seen) where it is warm. Maybe they do need a drink!

    Bookmark   December 31, 2013 at 5:21PM
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dragonstone

Wow, Donna.That is extremely bizarre that they haven't moved an inch since! I wonder what's affecting two bulbs.... hopefully the watering does the trick.

    Bookmark   January 1, 2014 at 12:51AM
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