Variegated Jade Forest (pics)

greenman28 NorCal 7b/8aJanuary 3, 2013

Let the New Year root-down commence!

This succulent project began last month when I received these most excellent cuttings.
I immediately set to work assembling a mix of screened Fir bark and assorted grit - Turface,
Pumice, Scoria, Perlite, and quartzite. Then I filled the long bonsai planter that I used to root
my last Jade Forest, arranged the cuttings, added a bit more mix to situate the cuttings.

After nearly a month of patience, I assumed the cuttings had sent out roots and were ready
for some moisture. So I gently lifted each cutting, then replaced in the container, and watered
to wet the roots and settle the mix. With a porous, loose mix one can check on cuttings without
worrying about damaging roots. Yet another advantage of a superior potting mix.

But enough talk! On with the pics, yes? ;-)

Here's the starting material. If I've mislabeled these, please let me know.
And if you're interested in the fine finger Jade 'Legolas,' talk to Gmaculata for details.

Contemplating the layout for the cuttings:

A close up shot of the motley mix:

Cuttings situated and ready to put down roots:

A couple weeks later, on a sunny window-sill:

And then the proof in the puddin' -
'Maruba Nishiki'

Lancaster variegated

'Legolas'

'Red Horn Tree' with lots of root activity!

Josh

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rina_

Josh

Love the collection (especially 'Legolas').

Great roots, and in such a short time - for some reason I thought that variegates are little more difficult to root...
Your mix looks great too (besides being well-draining; are you mixing it in more or less equal parts?) - plants look so much better in 'nice-looking' mix.

Hope to see follow-up photos as they grow bigger.
Nice planter too.

Rina

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kaktuskris(5)

Great cuttings, and excellent work, Josh! Keep us updated on their progress.

Christopher

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hijole(9 Sunny California)

Happy New Year Josh,

Nice looking Jades, I have many but none of the variegated type, It always seems like we have everything until someone posts their collection.

Well I see whats on my list for this year.

Greg

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monet_g

Very nice job, Josh. The pictures add so much to your excitement - well done.

There's an old family nursery close by that has a boat load (okay, maybe, six - twelve) mature-ish common(?) var Jades. Guess I better to have another look.

If I remember correctly they could be "Lancaster". Are these easy to identify just by appearance?
Gail

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TT, zone 5b MA

Love that 'Legolas', too....and nice, crunchy soil mix!

T

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ctreeteac(Zone 8b; rain-spewing Oregon)

Gorgeous! Lucky duck. Love that variegation.

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Irrelephant

New Years Resolution: Find Variegated Jades. Last years was variegated eureka lemon, and check.

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puglvr1(9b central FL)

Great job Josh!! Rooting Jades is NO easy task for me( nearly impossible actually ) here in very humid FL...so my hat's off to you! Looking forward to updates for sure!

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meyermike_1micha(5)

Josh! Extremely remarkable!

I knew you could do it pal! The key was to get them to you as plump and at their peek growth.
I am sure they will be in good hands buddy!

I love how the 'Legolas' held on to it's white color without shriveling up. Oh, they look so full and healthy.

Pretty soon I will be cutting some more before I put them out for the spring.

Thank you for sharing with us. I am so excited to see they all made it for a great guy!

You know what I love about these? That all with retain their coloring right through the winter. All the main plants are as birght and vivid as the day I brought them in. Talk about bright plants at a most dismal time of the year. And, they will grow fast for you!

Mike

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Laura Robichaud

Mike, maybe in the spring, I could trouble you for a couple of cuttings. I might drive up to see if you if possible.

--Your Stalker

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Thanks, Rina!
I think these variegates have enough green to make rooting easy.
Attempting to root variegated leaves, particularly mostly white ones, is very difficult.
I stuck a few leaves, as well, and the 'Red Horn Tree' leaf shriveled up within a few days.

The mix was not measured, just eye-balled this time - I took some rain-soaked recycled mix
of Fir bark, perlite, and white pumice, and added some dry Scoria, Turface, and fresh bark until
I'd evened the moisture out and had a balance of large and small particles.

Christopher, thanks sir! I will surely update with the success or failure of this planting.

Happy New Year, Greg! It's good to see you :-)
Indeed, I've been lusting after the 'Red Horn Tree' and the 'Maruba Nishiki' for a couple years now,
but the specimen from Lancaster Gardens and the 'Legolas' I learned about within the last year or so.

Monet, if you can post a picture it would be great.
There are quite a few variegated Jades - beside the 'Tricolor' that is common -
and I find them difficult to distinguish sometimes. The Lancaster cutting may have a proper name
already, but I surely don't know it - so I'm simply calling it by the nursery whence it came.

Mister Tom Termine, thanks! I love a crunchy mix that snaps, crackles, pops, and smells
like volcanic dust when watered ;-) Glen's 'Legolas' is a beauty...I hope he's propagating more!

Colleen, I feel very, very lucky! I don't particularly fancy the typical variegated Jade,
but who can resist these uniquely variegated Jades?! ;-)

Irrelephant, get you some variegated Jades! :-D
When I saw the variegated Pink Eureka Lemon, I had to have one. Mike helped encourage me, too.

Hey, Nancy, thanks for stopping by! I think we ought to have an "underground root-road"
where folks in northern States root cuttings and then send them south to you ;-)

Mike, none of this would be possible without you, buddy.
The cuttings were plump, well-packaged, and great-sized for rooting. Thank you so much.
I didn't mist or water during the process, so they are somewhat dehydrated, but that's all
going to change now that the roots are biting into the mix and able to take up moisture again.
As always, it will be an exciting experiment to see how the colors hold up/intensify in my climate.

Laura, if you do go up to stalk Mike, a bottle of wine will loosen him up ;-)

Josh

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Laura Robichaud

Thanks for the tip, Josh. He might find me hiding behind a bench in his greenhouse, perfectly still, holding an orchid in front of my face.

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Hahaha, if you can find room to hide in Mike's greenhouse, I'll be amazed! :-)
Be careful, though...if he doesn't notice you, you might get watered and fertilized.

Josh

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chaparralgirl(Sonoran Desert (CA))

Josh,

Thanks for the detailed description of your process. I'll have to make use of it myself! :)

And lovely specimens - I love variegates on jades!

*CG*

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Thanks, CG, I'm glad you liked it! :-)

Josh

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puglvr1(9b central FL)

Hey Josh...LOVE your great idea...might have to work on that :o)

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bikerdoc5968 Z6 SE MI

Josh, in your close-up of your mix, I've circled some brown porous material. What is it? Since you live in CA, I am assuming you probably get your Pumice and Scoria, locally, yes? If not, do you have a source? Thanks

Howard

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Hey, Howard!
You are correct, I buy my materials at a local nursery in Auburn.
The circled material is Scoria, red lava rock. This is an E.B. Stone product
sold in small bags as "volcanic pumice," and comes in white, grey, and red/brown.
It should be available throughout the state. It's one of my favorite ingredients.

Josh

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Laurent

Hi !
Beautiful plants.

Just one question about C.o.'Maruba Nishiki' : do you have a reliable source about the cross C. o. 'Obliqua' X C.o.'Hummel's Sunset' ?

Thank you very much.

Laurent

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Laurent, thanks!
I do not have a reliable source on the cross information.
It is something that I read in association with this plant when first shown by Ben.
It is "thought to be" a cross between obliqua and 'Hummel's Sunset,' is what I read.
Whenever I receive more thorough information, I will update all my notes and images :-)

Thank you!

Josh

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Laurent

Thank you very much Josh !

Laurent

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Wonderful weather we're having, and I thought I'd update on the small forest of cuttings. New growth and increased vibrance and color now that Spring is near. I have this container in some partial shade on the back deck.

Josh

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kaktuskris(5)

Looks great, Josh! Good job. Just love the variegated Jades.

Here is a pic of a cutting of a cutting of Mike's Jade, in a south facing window.

Christopher

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Thanks, Christopher!

I'll snap a pic of two other variegates from Mike tomorrow. I also have mine in a south window, and they sure do get thirsty with the sun light and the warmth. Nice to see the return of the red margins. This season, I'm going to fertilize more heavily...everyone's cuttings or plants from Mike seem to be growing faster than mine!!! Time to change things up ;-)

Josh

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woodnative(6)

I missed this post first time around so glad I was able to see it now. They look great!!! Good luck with all of them......you will have a full-size variegated forest in no time!

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Hey, thanks, Woodnative! I can't wait to get them outdoors full-time :-)

Josh

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puglvr1(9b central FL)

Very NICE Josh. You make rooting Jades seem so effortless,lol...wish it was that easy for me :o)

Great Job with them, thanks for the update!

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123Greta(9b)

Great job, Josh! Looks beautiful.

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meyermike_1micha(5)

Josh, how are they looking now with the sun in your area getting hotter and hotter while the temps are still cool?

You are doing a great job buddy!

Mike

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kaktuskris(5)

So where are those pictures, Josh?

I just took this yesterday of the most common variegated Jade alongside a cutting of a cutting of Mike's Jade for comparison...

Christopher

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emerald1951

Hi Josh...love your new jades...good growing....linda

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Hey, Nancy, Greta, Mike, Christopher, and Linda!
I'm sorry for my delay, and thanks for reminding me Chris to snap some more pics of the other variegates I have. I completely forgot! I have some time this afternoon to take pics, and I'll upload later tonight.

Josh

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Good morning!
Another progress pic, and this time I've included two other variegates from Mike - up top, middle and right, are cuttings from Mike's well-traveled mother plant. Top-left, a different variegate entirely, with more yellow and white leaves, as well as some grey-blue coloration. Now that I see the pic in the message, I realize I'll need to take some additional close-up pics.

Josh

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sugi_c(9a)

Josh, these looks so fresh and gorgeous!
I have one variegated jade that I just potted into gritty mix and it's happily lounging on the southern balcony.

What is that tall one of the far right? I want it! :-)

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Hey, thank you :-)
The tall one on the right in the round pot is a cutting from Mike's un-named variegated mother Jade - if I recall, he got a piece from a dentist friend several years ago (eh, Mike?). This cutting had a cool curve in the trunk, and I've tried to grow it a bit more "bonsai."

I'd like to see a pic of your re-potted Jade.

Josh

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kaktuskris(5)

A nice group shot of some very nice plants, Josh.

So how is the weather your way? Looks nice and green, from the photo. Here we might have another snowstorm heading this way tomorrow, so tired of it.

Christopher

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sugi_c(9a)

Hi Josh!

Here's my only variegated Jade.

In hindsight, the pot's entirely too big but it's what I had. I can't make up my mind with this one, whether to put it outside or inside so it's traveled back and forth, haha.

Do you have all of yours outside?
It's hitting 70 these days and lows of 50s overnight, give or take 2 degrees....and I can't make up my mind which situation is more ideal for the thing. I used to have a regular crassula in the light shade by the front door for several years that did really well, but I was always curious about having one indoors.

Love how that one has a nice trunk when it's still small. I wonder if I can train mine to trunk by pulling off leaves, haha.

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Hi, Grace!
I think a lot of us are doing the plant shuffle this time of year ;-)
I've been taking plants out every day that I can, and bringing them in at night - today we hit 78F; yet tonight will drop to the upper 30F's. It's a lot of work, but also a great way for the plants to regain some of the vitality lost over the Winter. Be careful not to burn your plants with too much sun too soon, though.

I had a few out on the table yesterday...

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wweidele(6)

Wowwwww nice beautiful "Legolas" lucky you. :) willing to share a leaf lol

G/l

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Thanks ;-)
I think Glen (gmaculata) is propagating some 'Legolas'...at least I hope he is. I already failed to root a leaf - granted, it was an all-white leaf. I think this one will have a much higher strike rate if started from cutting. Full disclosure: there's a list as long as my arm of folks who've requested pieces of 'Legolas.'

Josh

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wweidele(6)

Yeah I can only imagine an all white leaf being impossible lol

And I sure that lost will grow such a beautiful specimen that I hope I can add to the collection one day any how great progress and g/l

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gmaculata(5)

My mother plant has been cut so many times she needs a rest. I have tried from leaf cuttings and have only gotten one out of about 60 leaves to have any variegated markings. The leaf will want to root out of the tissue that has the chlorophyll and therefor is not likely to pass the variegation to the offspring. It is not a super fast grower but it is not a wimpy plant and has survived my cool damp greenhouse with no problems. To those that I have shared the plant with all I ask is that you only pass along the cuttings that have the traits such as you got it from me. Thanks!

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

You got it, Glen :-)

Any chance we could see a picture of the mother plant?

Josh

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beachplant(9b)

Pug, you are so right! They are an impossible plant in the humidity. And they do not seem too fond of a/c either. It's kind of funny that people in Canada have better luck with them.

Ya'll keep me amused you are so passionate about these little guys.
Tally HO!

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Pug sure grows them well, though. And they even bloom for her.

Glad you're amused, though.

Josh

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beachplant(9b)

I gave up on them years ago. There is one on the backporch that came in a dish garden and is struggling. I don`t think they are really fond of salt air either. I know a lot of people in the drier parts of Texas grow them.

I`m easily amused what can I say.
Tally HO!

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

These grow a stone's throw from the ocean in Monterey, California. I remember, I was amazed to see large 'Hummel's Sunsets' growing in front yards.

Josh

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Happy Easter! Here's an update on the cuttings. The first of the Maruba Nishiki leaves is sending up a plantlet. We'll see if the traits hold.

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

And a full shot....

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Laura Robichaud

Thanks for the update Josh. I wish I could get my hands on some of those varieties!

Nancy, what kind of jades do you have?

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Allan870

Love this thread! I fell in love with the Jade plant last Fall. I've used some of the tips I've read on some of y'alls Jade threads, and it has really helped! Great photos though. Really inspiring.

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Thanks, Allan! I just saw your Jades, too, and they're lookin' compact and healthy.

Josh

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Allan870

It is because of tips I have seen you and others post in these threads!

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

I'm beginning to see some color finally!

Josh

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123Greta(9b)

I've said it before... so gorgeous, Josh! I admire your plants and your talent! :)

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americangolden(ZONE 5B)

Very awesome greenman28! I hope to add some of those varieties to my collection some day. Keep up with the pictures they are looking great!

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Greta and American, thank you both!
I will take some new pictures very soon.

Josh

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jessiec777(Washington State 5)

Your jades never disappoint Josh ;-) I love your collection

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Thanks, Jessie, so kind!

We are entering that time of year, however, when the 'Hummel's Sunset' and other pale-leafed Jades get browned margins. I'll be moving them into some partial shade.

Josh

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

'Red Horn Tree' update pic...

Josh

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americangolden(ZONE 5B)

Looking good greenman!

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Pat

greenman or anyone, do you use a special ceramic drill on those delicate-looking pots for drainage holes?
Pat

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Hello.
All my pots came with drainage holes, so I'm lucky that I haven't had to do much drilling.

Josh

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meyermike_1micha(5)

Josh...Dang they are all looking so good!

Mine are just starting to get much larger now...It's been a strange growing season to say the least.

I'll be posting the mother plants very soon pal..Should I post them here? They do have something in common..lol

Mine are coloring up very well...It's been cool here at night for a month now, cooler than normal and hot sun by day!+
I just transplanted the Red Horn Tree and the Maruba Nishuki into larger pots since the roots out grew the smaller ones and dried out almost every day..

Have a great night buddy!

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whip1 Zone 5 NE Ohio

Hello all! I just wanted to say those variegated jades look amazing!

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Hey, guys!
It's hot and smoky here...wildfires burning throughout northern California. But we're surviving somehow ;-)

My variegates have really gotten sunblasted this Summer, and the birds pecked out two of the 'Maruba Nishiki' plantlets, along with some grit...so I'm bummed about those. Mike, I need to pot these into their own containers, too...I think they'll do much better.

Please post some pics, Mike, I would love to see the parent plants :-)

Josh

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woodnative(6)

Have they been fertiized Obviously good sun but they could have put out more growth over summer. However, that is only to speed growth. Thanks forcthe updated pic.

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Very, very little fertilizer...hot roots, too.
Time to re-pot them and treat them to more nutrients.

Josh

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greentoe357

Josh, can we see the side shot or better yet several side shots of that big asymmetrical wavy pot? It looks interesting - almost as gorgeous as the Jades themselves.

Is it an actual planter or originally sold as something else? I am exploring using something funky like a fruit basket or a low/wide vase or a salad mixing bowl as a planter as long as I can drill a hole in whatever material it's made of.

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Good morning!
I'd be glad to get some pics....I'll go out directly.
Yes, this is an actual bonsai pot with feet and two nice drainage holes. Twice now I've used it to propagate Jades, but I think it's too shallow for full Summer sun. This season my plants have gotten cooked! :-)

I've seen some very cool pots created from various ceramic and clay objects, baskets, coffee cups, et cetera. As long as the paint/glaze/material isn't toxic, you're good to go.

Be back shortly...

Josh

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Here's a first pic...it's raining again, so I'll have to snap some other pics when the sky clears.

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greentoe357

looks really nice!

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wweidele(6)

Any updates? ?

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rina_

Yeah, Josh...hope it stopped to rain - and before the snow! (but you lucky probably don't get any)...just joking.
It's a 'pick-me-up' to see such a nice plants!

Rina

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Thanks for the continued interest! I'm having trouble with my computer lately, but I will update as soon as I can. These Jades are indoors now, and looking good.

Josh

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Alright...an indoor update pic.
The plants are still growing, putting on size....and the Maruba Nishiki is even beginning to branch at the top! I couldn't be happier. The leaves that I propagated from the Lancaster variegated have turned out to be regular green Jades, so I will pull them at my first convenience.

Josh

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wweidele(6)

Awsome thanks for the update lucky u g/l with them

Keep us posted

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camellia1_gw

Oh, looking GREAT!

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rina_

Very nice, Josh.
They are visibly bigger, great color and so healthy looking.
Thank you for brightening my day...(even if it's bright enough with some snow we had last night! And it got cold, around 12F, and forecasted only in low 20 for today...it looks like a long winter ahead).

Rina

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emerald1951

Josh.....great looking jades where did you fine them...
there are never anything like that at any of the places I go...
good growing....enjoy and thanks for posting....linda

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Quite the color fall foliage I see going on there and getting bigger too..Great work Josh..I knew they would be in safe hands !

Thanks for keeping updating us pal.

Mike:-)

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Hey, everyone! Thank you very much...I'm enjoying these Jades immensely. Now that I've been watering and fertilizing them a little more regularly, they are growing well.

Linda, I received these cuttings from Mike (thanks, Mike!).This way, if Mike ever loses a plant, he'll have a back up here in California :-)

Josh

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Good growth this Spring so far!
I'll try to get some good color without the leaves paling and turning brown at the edges. I've kept this pot in partial sun only and haven't left it out to the chilly and dewy nights.

Josh

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Josh

The forest is looking great! Very 'fresh' green, nice variegation, and they look really succulent.
So what's the plan to achieve what you describe - keeping them in partial sun?
Rina

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Thanks, Rina.
Yes, partial sun until they're fully acclimated, and then protection from the hottest sun of the day after that. Also, I need to fertilize more regularly this season....last season, they really paled out.

Josh

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camellia1_gw

Very nice!

It's exacting that Spring is beginning to show. I miss seeing everyone's jades' updates.

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Stush2049 Pitts. PA, zone 6

Josh,
I read somewhere that strong fertilizer and bright sun will reverse variegation and plant will become green again. So if possible, watch carefully to see what effects it has on your plants.
Stush

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Hello!
Stush, I'll keep a close eye on the plants. Typically, the sun bleaches out the plants, resulting in mostly yellowy leaves where the variegation is difficult to see. I have seen 'Hummel's Sunset' Jades with very little coloration on a high Nitrogen diet.

Josh

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puglvr1(9b central FL)

Looking really good Josh...thanks for the update!

Did you have to drill holes on the cool pot or was it already pre-drilled? It ooks great in that pot/container :o)

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Thanks, Nancy! This bonsai pot came with holes, thankfully :-)

Josh

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Hi Josh,

What a great little forest you've got going. I'm planning on whacking my variegated jade in a few days and am preparing to do so (working on putting together a good mix, finding pots for the cuttings, etc.). I just wanted to get this right: when you planted your cuttings, you waiting about a month to water them? Is that right? The cuttings will be pretty large--branch sized.

I'm just trying to make sure I don't kill my variegated gem ;)

Lil K jr

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Hello!
Yes, it was about that long before I actively watered. There was *some* moisture in the mix when assembled, so that added a buffer - but not so moist that rot would have been a concern. If you use a super porous and loose mix, you can dribble some water around (not on) the cuttings after a week or two...and you can gently remove the cuttings from the mix to check on rooting progress. Again, only if the mix is so loose that you won't damage the newly forming roots.

Josh

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Any updates?
Grant

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sugi_c(9a)

I was trying to find this thread because I was curious how yours were doing, Josh! I couldn't find it - but Grant brought it back. :)

I had posted my cuttings back up there on March 13th of last year. My guys have grown a bit but I think I must've burnt them when they first came to my new house -- because I got these marks on the tips.

I've since put her where she is in the photo where she gets sun later than her original spot. The marks (burns?) haven't gotten any worse, it's adapting nicely and now I am glad I planted them in a pot that was a wee bit too big for them.

What were tiny little cuttings of your have grown HUGE. I love that marked one on the right of the photos with big yellow splotches. Very cool.

Grace

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Hello! Thanks for the bump! I just so happen to have taken a few pics in the last week...right after we had the first nice rains of the season. I really need to pot these each separately now, and as always I need to fertilize more.

Grace, I find that the variegates burn very easily. I've always had trouble keeping the white leaves pristine. Anyhow, here are couple pics I took.

Josh

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

From the back side....

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woodnative(6)

Every time I see these photos I covet 'Legolas'. What a unique beauty!!! I like the one in the back right and back middle too. What are the cultivar names of these two?? Looking good! Nice to compare and see growth and changes over time!

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camellia1_gw

Oh, WOW! They all look GREAT! I love how the Maruba is keeping it's variegated colors.

I so miss everyone's jades' pics.

Sugi - Yours look fine. Mine got burned.

Not sure if you all remembered but I found a tri-color jade at a nursery last year. It seemed to be doing fine until of late. A few weeks, ago, the leaves were all burned. I guess the sun got brighter? It was in the same spot all season in full sun - about 5 hours in the day.

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Woodnative, 'Legolas' is awesome...but such a slow grower, for me at least. The one in the middle-back is an unknown variegated Jade that was purchased from Lancaster garden / nursery - not sure exactly. The one on the right is Maruba Nishiki, a Japanese hybrid variegate.

Camellia, when the sun lowers again in the Fall, it strikes the plants at a different angle and can burn them very easily.

Josh

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Hey Josh...I love the updates! Looking real nice..

I promise I will post the parents to those plants as soon as it's sunny..Sheesh, I am suppose to get warm sunny days and cool nights, not happening this year..It's been cloudy everyday and dark and dismal since last year. I think I live in the wrong area for colors like that. I can't wait to see if they flower too for you.

Good job pal..

MIke

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Thanks, Mike, sorry it took so long to get back....I lost track of this Thread. Still waitin' on you to take those update pics! I bet you're getting great color now that the season's changing. These variegates aren't flowering yet, but one of the cuttings from your variegated mother plant is flowering....along with a few others.

Josh

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marguerite_gw

Is there a list anywhere of all the variegated jades, I wonder? I didn't know there were so many.
Greenman, I have so enjoyed this thread, thank you very much.

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Thanks, Marguerite!
I don't know if there is a comprehensive list of Jade variegates. We might have to compile it ourselves!

Josh

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oks2n2

Josh
if you know Russian, look please http://forum-flower.ru/showthread.php?p=433715&postcount=4
About species, varieties, forms of jades.
But description of one variegated Ovata with yellow stripes is absent.

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greenclaws UKzone8a

Oksana, many thanks for the link to your Russian site. It came with a handy translation button on my laptop so I hope the others also get this function as my Russian is non existent...except to say Spasibo!! I'm off to have good read now and turn myself green with envy at all those lovely varieties :)

I've tried to link the English translation but it didn't work :(

Gill UK

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oks2n2

Gill UK, thank you for compliments!
I'm the author of this article and I used some benst's pics.

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Gill

I don't see translate button. Where is it?

While I can read some Russian, it is not quite enough - too bad I forgot most of it!

Rina

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oks2n2

Rina
you can translate using Google translator.
It is necessary to enter the site address on the translation page.
Oksana.

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Oks2n2

Thank you for the translation tip. I tried just the words/partial sentences I couldn't read, but that is too much pasting...Will attempt as you suggested. (I am slowly remembering whole azbuka!)
Rina

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k8 (6a, NJ)

Rina, if you use a browser like chrome you can usually just right click anywhere on the page and choose "translate" from the drope-down menu

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greenclaws UKzone8a

Hi guys, seems it actually popped up at the top of the page but within my browser bar, I didn't spot that fact as I was just so happy that it was there!! Hope you can get to read it.

Gill UK

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marguerite_gw

I found this page with lots of data on jades and other crassulas:
http://members.tripod.com/~Hatch_L/cvcras.pdf

Roll down the page a good bit.

This post was edited by marguerite on Thu, Jan 22, 15 at 7:40

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camellia1_gw

Very interesting Marguerite. I saw 'Gandalf' that someone had asked on another thread listed.

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

I just went through the pdf....and without images to demonstrate all those listed plants, I have my doubts about the overall accuracy.

Josh

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oks2n2

marguerite
my antivirus has wrote this site contains dangerous virus (

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marguerite_gw

Really, Oks? Mine didn't signal anything at all.
I was looking for a plant named 'Hummel's Ghost', a new variegate, but I can find nothing on it at all anywhere.

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bens2bens

hi,

@ marguerite: in my opinion "Hummels Ghost" is just another name for "Hummels Sunset Variegata" ... here you can see pictures ...
http://myfl.ru/blog/novichki-v-sukkulentnoi-kollektsii-ch2
http://cactusshop.co.uk/index.php?id_product=511&controller=product&id_lang=1

the pdf is an old list of 2006 ... also here lots of names are synonyms of the same cultivar. I agree with Josh, without a reference picture a cv name means nothing.

All the best,
Ben

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marguerite_gw

Thank you, Ben. The plants on the two sites look different.
My Hummel Sunset has very oval leaves, on the other plants they look longer.

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oks2n2

marguerite
This is the same plant in two sites.
Ovata cv. «Hummel's Sunset» f. variegata is easy to change the color of the leaves, depending on external conditions. Leaves increase in size if the soil contains more nitrogen.



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kaktuskris(5)

That Russian website is very nice indeed. Seems to me there is more interest in Jade varieties outside of the United States than in it. Don't know why that is.

Christopher

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marguerite_gw

Oksana, Ben, all, that plant in Oksana's two pictures is indeed the one I received this morning, a sturdy little plant, with all different types of stripy leaves. The label says 'Crassula ovata 'Hummel's Ghost.'. I wonder why 'Ghost'?
Thanks for all the input.

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kaktuskris(5)

Marketing people always think of new names to get you to buy their products...

Christopher

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DSum

They are great plants, Josh. I love to see them. I just wondered what kind of fertilizer do you use?

Diana

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oks2n2

Christopher
Your «Hummel's Sunset» f. variegata is great plant! Under full sun?

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Diana, I usually sprinkle a bit of Osmocote in the mix, and then I use reduced strength Foliage Pro 9-3-6 for every plant I own.

Josh

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kaktuskris(5)

Oksana:

Thank you for the kind words. I keep it in a south facing window. There is only a single pane of glass in the window, so I am sure the temperature can get rather cool.

Christopher

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Hey, Christopher, that variegate of yours is very full! Mine is still kind of scrawny and lanky....but I don't want to prune it yet.

Josh

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kaktuskris(5)

Thanks, Josh.

It originally came from California, further south. Now it has adapted to my sunny south facing window here in Massachusetts, though winter here is not that sunny...

Christopher

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

:-) That's cool because mine originally came from Massachusetts! hehehe

Josh

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Update....planting is now right around two years old.

Josh

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camellia1_gw

They all look FANTASTIC!! Nice growth! Doesn't seem like that much time has passed.

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Thanks, Camellia! I know, time goes by in the blink of an eye :-)

Each of these specimens is ready for an individual pot, and I am eager to get them alone. Once re-potted, I think the growth rate will increase. I really want the 'Legolas' to put on some growth, as it's starting to be hidden by the larger variegate in the middle/top.

Josh

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ehuns27 7a PA

Josh,

I found this thread when I searched on here for Maruba nishiki. How is yours doing? I just got one from Glen along with a couple others. From what I read these are affected more by light than the others. What would you recommend as far as lighting? It's the first day of Spring here and it's snowing about 5 inches... So I am not quite ready to have it outside when it comes but should be able to make the change shortly.

-Erica

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Hey, Erica!

Yes, the Maruba Nishiki is affected by light, and will produce brilliant yellow leaves with ample sun. I like a few hours of direct sun for mine, followed by filtered sunlight for the hottest part of the day. Now that I'm bringing mine outdoors occasionally, I put it under the shade of one of my citrus trees to prevent the other variegates in the pot from burning.

Josh

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plantcollector75

my variegated jade plant and a unknown plant that came with it when I got it at a local nursery.

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ehuns27 7a PA

Thanks Josh. I'll probably keep it on the south side of my porch a little further back.

These are rare enough that I am almost nervous about it! I only just started collecting various jades and have so much to learn about them!

-Erica

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

The time has finally come to pot these Jades separately, and then hopefully root some other Jades in the not so distant future. Yesterday, I drilled a drainage hole in a pot that one of my former students gave to me. Once I wrangle up three other pots, I'll begin the process.

Josh

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plantcollector75

Josh

my jade plant has another plant in it that I think maybe might be something similar to jade. do you know what it is?

Isaac

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

I don't know what it is. It's not a Jade...looks like a fleshy Echeveria or one of the many hybrids, Graptoveria, et cetera.

There is a "Name That Plant" Forum for plant identification at GardenWeb, and the participants are very good at ID.

Josh

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Laurent

Isaac, it looks very much like Graptopetalum paraguayense.

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plantcollector75

Thanks for the help :D

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plantcollector75

I think the plant at the top is alligator kalanchoe of mother of thousands

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Please start a new Thread for those pictures :-) You'll get better responses for identification.
This Thread is about variegated Jade plants.

Josh

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plantcollector75

OK :D

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plantcollector75

Is this tri color jade not to certain

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Yes, that's exactly what it is.

Josh

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Today was the day of the separation. The forest is no more....now they are all solo :-)

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Maruba Nishiki in a pot that a former student made for me:

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

'Red Horn Tree' - sorry, not such a good pic.

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Variegated Jade from Lancaster Gardens. This Jade is very vigorous, so I put it in a larger pot to help it put on size.

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

And of course 'Legolas' in a small bonsai pot.

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Then I grouped them in a shady area to rest for the afternoon :-)

Thus concludes the variegated Jade Forest....until next time.

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Laurent

All beautiful ;) ...and they look very healthy, congratulations ! Legolas is stunning.

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marguerite_gw

How beautiful they all look ! Great work, it will be interesting to see if they speed up growth now.

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plantcollector75

Nice jades ,they look wonderful in the new pots

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camellia1_gw

Yes! I concur! They all look beautiful and 'Legolas' looks fantastic. I see a lot of green on that one branch so hopefully, it will grow faster for you.

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ehuns27 7a PA

They all look great! They have really gotten some nice woody trunks on them. I love the canopy growth on the Lancaster Gardens jade.

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Thanks, all! I think they'll be much healthier now, and they'll grow faster. The roots were all matted together and very dry. With that many Jades in a single container, they were sucking a lot of moisture out of the soil.

The Lancaster variegate developed that canopy without any pinching or shaping....other than turning the container periodically.

I will begin fertilizing in a week or two.

Josh

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plantcollector75

Thanks for the update josh ,nice to see how the jades are doing :)

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deva33 Z5 SE Iowa

This makes me think it may be time for mine to have their own pots!

This is 5 different plants. 4 regular and one variegated. They are getting a bit crowded and I think I want to get them in gritty mix.

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

They do look crowded, but they look good!

Josh

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deva33 Z5 SE Iowa

Thanks Josh. They are getting crowded. I'm going to send one bare root to a friend in Cali along with some other cuttings. Then the rest are getting their own homes. :-)

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plantcollector75

put my tri color jade into a new pot yesterday.

The old and the new pot comparison

The tri color jade in it's new spot

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mikerno_1micha(Zone 6a, Massachusetts)

Oh Josh. I think you did a fantastic job. They will grow so nice now that you gave them such plenty of room. Fertilize fertilize. I noticed that color is coming on. By the way. I want you to know that the 'Legolas' never has to be trimmed to be full and short. It grows a great canopy without cutting anything back. The Maruba also never needs cutting back. You'll see. Except for the fact I shared a couple of cuttings. It has never been punched back.

I know you would do such a great job with yours and if I should ever lose any of mine, I have nothing to fear. Thanks for sharing pal.

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marguerite_gw

plantcollector75, I wasn't sure your plant was a tricolor jade but now I see it is. It's a lovely plant, I hope you'll post another pic later on.

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plantcollector75

I think this is a regular jade plant or maybe it might be a kalanchoe

More tri color jade pictures

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marguerite_gw

That does look like a jade leaf, plantcollector. Are you ever tempted to top your tricolor?

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plantcollector

I agree with Marguerite that it is jade leaf, with a nice growth. There is a plant to the very left in first photo that looks like kalanchoe (net very clear in the photo). The leaves of jade are overall smaller & 'chubbier' (thicker) than kalanchoe.

Just wondering about your re-pot; did you feel it needed bigger pot?

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plantcollector75

Rina

The plant left of the jade is a red double flower kalanchoe. (Picture here is a cutting I took of the plant yesterday).

I sadly totally forgot about the regular jade plant till now my garden. Yes the tri color did need a new pot when I got it ,roots where starting to come out the bottom , (I forgot to take a picture of the roots sadly ).

plantcollector75

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Marguerite

yes sometimes I am tempted to top the plant and get other variegated jade or other different varieties :)

plantcollector75

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