aechmea fasciata too much of smth?

petrushkaJune 7, 2014

too much water? too much light?
the new leaves are tight and upright - so i figured it's getting enough light. but the leaves are wrinkled or folded somewhat?
what can be causing this? may be too much fertilizer? i sprinkled a few balls of osmocote on the soil.
and it's a rather large plant in 7" pot: triple + 2 pups going, so i've been making sure it does not dry up - keeping it moist.
also it looks like it's funnelling very tightly - hope of a bloom coming?
just wanted to add that i have 70% humidity and often higher, it's indoors in very sunny western window - but with some obstruction. so may be 3-4 hours of sun. and it's turned sideways - so sun was not directly hitting the middle of the crown.
also it's been on water-wick, laid on top of soil, so top-wicking for most of the year. for 2 mo in dec-jan there ws no water in the funnel, but since then i reg. fill it up with spring water.
so no water-stress, no humidity stress (both of which are referenced as a cause for wrinkles and tightening of the crown).
and it never happened before - had this plant for 5 years.
also 2 small 6"-7"pups are ok, not wrinkled, no funneling just reg crowns.

This post was edited by petrushka on Sat, Jun 7, 14 at 16:18

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hotdiggetydam

This happens on many broms but usually just one plant not all the offspring. Nothing to worry about.

    Bookmark   June 7, 2014 at 4:43PM
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petrushka

ok, so you saying it's not detrimental?
'cause i've been trying to give it more light and moisture in hopes that it will bloom. so far it produced pups after 4 years.. of fairly dry up-keep with moderate light (ne to west with sev hours of strong sun).
i mean. smth in culture caused it obviously. it's not quilling per se - it's just funnelling very tightly, but no glueing. i repositioned it so it'll get a little less hot sun, a bit more diffused and dappled as we get into summer.
i read that they sometimes pup right before blooming.
is that possible to have pups and no blooms?

    Bookmark   June 7, 2014 at 11:09PM
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splinter1804

Hi all - Pardon my ignorance, but can someone please tell this old bloke what "smth" means as I'm not really up on computer lingo?

All the best, Nev

    Bookmark   June 13, 2014 at 2:54AM
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sunshine_qld

Google says "something".
I didn't know either as I always type full words.

    Bookmark   June 13, 2014 at 5:30AM
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petrushka

sorry, if i confused you. i don't abbreviate a lot, but sometimes. it's rather common. it's one of the few words i shorten. another one is prolly=probably.
one of my funneling (tunneling?) plants in the pic above is producing a bloom! i can see it in the cup. what a relief!

This post was edited by petrushka on Fri, Jun 13, 14 at 15:32

    Bookmark   June 13, 2014 at 2:14PM
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petrushka

both 5 yr old pups are blooming finally. i am so relieved. and two new pups (one on each) are growing well too.
the cluster is about 3' wide.

This post was edited by petrushka on Tue, Jul 15, 14 at 21:29

    Bookmark   July 15, 2014 at 8:18PM
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sunshine_qld

Looks great. They do look good in a clump.
Keep water in the tank and might help with the tunneling.

    Bookmark   July 16, 2014 at 6:56AM
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gonzer_gw

Plt lks OK t me

    Bookmark   July 16, 2014 at 7:35AM
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petrushka

i thought it's not good to keep water in the tank with the bloom there? i read to put water in adjacent leaves only until the bloom goes. is that not so?

    Bookmark   July 16, 2014 at 12:16PM
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gonzer_gw

That is not so.

    Bookmark   July 16, 2014 at 5:52PM
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petrushka

ok, i'll put some water in the cup too.
are you saying, put reg amt of water as usual?
searched again.
found mentioning that small amt in the cup at flowering is ok.
i normally put some spring water in the cup/leaves about once ev 7-10 days.
should i continue as normal, or put a little less then normal in the cup?

    Bookmark   July 16, 2014 at 7:47PM
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naoh123

Not sure if you have the space or climate for it, but mine do really well outside. We get a fair amount of rain so when they're outside I literally do nothing for them with the exception of a little fertilizer twice a month. They seem to grow pretty quick this way.

    Bookmark   July 16, 2014 at 9:52PM
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janartmuse

I've had mine (or divisions of it really!) since 1970, and it is a favorite of mine. I have always kept water in the cups, which is more important than the soil, I think. Occasionally I give it fertilizer, diluted, in the cups. I have a lot of orchids and African violets, so it gets leftovers. Or rather THEY get leftovers. Buds coming up now. Love 'em!

    Bookmark   July 17, 2014 at 11:47AM
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petrushka

wow, since 70s? that's impressive!
i have lots of plants, including av's and phals and lots of aroids: anthuriums, caladiums, thai ag, caladiums, alocasias.. lots of ficuses, some ferns..it's a long list.
my balcony is reserved for stuff that absolutely cannot survive without outdoors, like citrus, jades, ivies, amaryllis, crotons, begonias.
since my broms do quite all right indoors, all things considered.. - that's where they'll have to stay.
i am in nyc (across the hudson actually) in a high-rise, so all in all it's quite a challenge :).
here's a shot in the evening of a very stuffed window...

    Bookmark   July 17, 2014 at 11:14PM
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splinter1804

petrushka - I grow all of my brom's either in the garden or under shade cloth and I've always watered overhead with all of my brom's so they get water in the mix, in the leaf axils and in the central vase as well.

I always water in the early morning on the rising temperature and in really hot summer weather I will mist everything late in the afternoon when the sun has gone down.

They get their water in habitat from overhead, so who am I to change what Mother Nature has been doing forever.

For people growing plants inside their homes, cultural methods will be different , but I have no experience with this.

In the pic are Ae. fasciata rubra (front) and (at the rear) Ae. fasciata var. purpurea in flower

All the best, Nev.

    Bookmark   July 18, 2014 at 4:53PM
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petrushka

fabulous!
i can only dream about growing stuff like that - that is ...having space outside.
but the dream is getting closer...so i am preparing.
what are those spotted broms left and center?

    Bookmark   July 18, 2014 at 8:19PM
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bromeliaddict(z6 MI)

The spotted broms left and center are Aechmea orlandiana. They are easy to grow, like lots of sun, and tend to bloom for me during the winter months.

Paul

    Bookmark   August 5, 2014 at 9:38PM
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petrushka

paul,
do they bloom in winter indoors? in a greenhouse then?

    Bookmark   August 8, 2014 at 12:18PM
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tthomas88(z7bNC)

May I have a pup of the silver urn for postage?

    Bookmark   August 8, 2014 at 7:27PM
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