Leaf patterns....... a fun quiz.

LisaCLV(HI)August 27, 2009

Okay kids, how much attention do you pay to the markings on bromeliad foliage (as opposed to the form or the inflorescence)? I know some of you are whizzes at this, so here's a fun little quiz to test your powers of observation. Most of them should be pretty easy, but there might be a couple that are tougher than they look. No obscure cvs. here. Many are species, but there are some hybrids too (and yes, one is mine, but only one).

I took these photos a few years ago, sorry if some are a tad blurry, but don't wait for a larger picture, there won't be any!

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paul_t23(Coastal Sydney)

Hi guys,

As a beginner I'll try some of the easy ones and leave the harder ones to the experts:
#5 Vr. 'Sunset'
#7 Vr. platynema variegata
#8 Neo. 'Amazing Grace'
#13 Bill. 'Domingos Martins'?
#17 Vr. ospinae v. gruberi
#19 Vr. fenestralis?

    Bookmark   August 27, 2009 at 5:35AM
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devo_2006

Good quiz LisaÂI agree with Paul on # 7, 8, 13, & 17.

#1; Looks something like an albomarginated Aech orlandiana? But different to Ensign.
#2; First thought was Neo smithii, but the pattern seems to have a texture, so would rule out the maculation of smithii
#3; Bill Hallelujah
#4 5 6 9 & 10 ?
#11; Aech Chantinii or Zebrina?
#12; Vr splendens
#14; Vr Vista
#15; Neo rubrovittata
#16, 18?
#19; Werauhia kupperiana
#20; Zonated neoÂIÂll take a guess & say Blueberry Tiger.

ThatÂs about all I can handle for tonightÂall I can see now is spots, dots, lines & bandsÂ

    Bookmark   August 27, 2009 at 7:16AM
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devo_2006

OK...I've now had a change of heart, & don't know why I fixated on #1 being orlandiana...you could have made the first one a little easier Lisa! I'm now convincing myself that with the texture in the pattern it's got to be a neo concentrica hybrid of some sort.

If I can't sleep & keep seeing spots & dots all night I'm blaming you & your **** fun quiz Lisa!

    Bookmark   August 27, 2009 at 7:46AM
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matt15(Brisbane)

Great post Lisa....;)
Hands up beginner here to so i'll have a crack before the experts clean this up.

4.) Neo Fosperior Perfection
5.) Neo Prinsler
8.) Neo Amazing Grace
10.) Neo Cruenta????
18.) Neo Bill Morris

    Bookmark   August 27, 2009 at 8:11AM
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udo69

Hi All,

I think they all are difficult to guess but I should try.

#1 N.Prince Kuhio
#2 Ae.Rakate
#3 Bill.Pink Champagne
#5 Vr.sunset
#6 N.pink Sensation
#7 Vr.platynema variegata
#8 N.Amazing Grace
#9 Ae.Vista
#10 Quesnelia quesneliana
#11 Ae.zebrina
#12 Vr.splenden
#13 Bill. Domingp Martin
#15 N.rubrovittata
#16 Ques.marmorata
#17 Vr.ospinae v.gruberi
#18 Edmundoa lindenii albomarginata
#19 Werau.kupperiana

Cheers
Yong

    Bookmark   August 27, 2009 at 9:56AM
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pinkbroms

Hi Guys

#1,2,Bill. Halleluja
#3 Bill. After Glow
#4 Neo. hybrid
#5 Vr. Sunset
#6 ???
#7 Vr. platynema var. variegata
#8 Neo. Amazing Grace
#9 Ae. Samurai
#10 Hoh. correia-araujoi ???
#11 Ae. Zebrina
#12 Vr. Splenriet, Favoriet etc.
#13 Bill. Domingos Martins
#14 Vr. Vista, Bianca
#15 ??
#16 ??
#17 Vr. ospinae var. Gruberi
#18 Edmundoa lindenii now Alvim Seidel
#19 Wer. kupperiana
#20 ???

Happy guessing Guys

Pinkbroms

    Bookmark   August 27, 2009 at 9:56AM
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LisaCLV(HI)

See? I knew you guys were good! You've all got some of them but nobody's got them all, and at least one has got the right name in the wrong place! I'll wait for a few more people to have a chance, and give the answers tonight. In the meantime I'll tell you which one is mine: #3. That should make it easier, as nobody's got that one yet.

    Bookmark   August 27, 2009 at 2:10PM
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splinter1804

HI All

This is my best shot:

1 Some form of Ae Orlandiana
2 ?
3 ?
4 ?
5 ?
6 ?
7 Vr Platynema variegata
8 Neo Amazing Grace
9 ?
10 Bil Zebrina
11 Vr. Splendriet
12 ?
13 Bil Domingos Martins
14 ?
15 ?
16 ?
17 ?
18 ?
19 ?
20 ?

It just goes to show I need to pay more attention to detail in the future.

All the best, Nev.

    Bookmark   August 27, 2009 at 3:25PM
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avane_gw

Ok, let me try!

#1 - Aech Ensign - if the shot was taken from the top
#2 - Bill ?
#3 - Bill Royal Blood
#4 - Neo Crayola
#5 - Vr Sunset
#6 - Neo Pink Sensation
#7 - Vr platynema var variegata
#8 - Neo Amazing Grace
#9 - Aech Samurai
#10 - Bill vittata
#11 - Aech Black
#12 - Vr splendens
#13 - Bill Domingos Martins
#14 - Vr Vista
#15 - Neo rubrovittata
#16 - This one is going to keep me awake tonight!
#17 - Vr ospinae v. gruberi
#18 - Edm lindenii a-m
#19 - Wer kupperiana
#20 - carch Tiger

Japie

    Bookmark   August 27, 2009 at 4:23PM
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kerry_t_australia(9)

Oh goodie, a fun quiz - but Lisa, easy you say? Ha! Fat chance! Some look like a mass murder has taken place, with some scary cows involved - but I'll have a stab (excuse the pun).

#1 - Neo. 'Bill Morris'
#2 - um, looks like my eyeball after a hard night! Bill. ?
#3 - Bill. 'New Year's Eve'
#4 - Neo. ?
#5 - Vr. 'Sunset'
#6 - Neo. 'Donna'
#7 - Vr. platynema var. variegata
#8 - Neo. 'Amazing Grace'
#9 - Ae. 'Samurai'
#10 - Ques. arvensis or Neo. spectabilis
#11 - Big scary cow? This one has intrigued me the most!
#12 - Vr. splendens
#13 - Bill. 'Domingos Martins'
#14 - Vr. 'Vista'
#15 - Neo. rubrovittata
#16 - Ques. marmorata or Vr. guttata (or the residue of another brutal murder)
#17 - Vr. ospinae var. gruberi
#18 - Ed. lindennii albomarginated (as Ross said - now 'Alvim Seidel')
#19 - Wer. kupperiana
#20 - Neo. carcharodon 'Tiger' (copying from Japie - sounds as good a guess as any)

I think I'm gonna fail this test!

Kerry

    Bookmark   August 27, 2009 at 7:49PM
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graykiwi

Thanks for the quiz Lisa !...my guesses are;

#1 - Ae. Ensign or reverse ? but not 100%
#2 - Bill. Halleluja
#3 - ?..sorry dunno your Bills without lookin' up ?
#4 - ???..far out what IS it ??
#5 - Vr. Sunset
#6 - Neo. Pink Sensation or Passion ?
#7 - Vr. platynema var variegata
#8 - Neo. Amazing Grace
#9 - Ae. Samurai
#10 - Quesnelia ?
#11 - Ae. Zebrina
#12 - Vr. splenriet
#13 - Bill. Domingos Martins
#14 - Vr. Vista
#15 - Neo. rubrovittata
#16 - ?? Hmmm...something Marmorata !!
#17 - Vr. ospinae
#18 - Ed. lindenii alboma
#19 - Wer. kupperiana
#20 - Neo. Tiger

PS: Great photos too !!...I might print off A4 copies for my bedroom wall and ceiling haha..

Cheers
Graeme

    Bookmark   August 28, 2009 at 1:16AM
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avane_gw

Me again after a sleepless night!

#16 - Ques marmorata

And for #11 I am very tempted to say it is Vr splendens because of that stepped colour band, but #12 looks exactly like the pattern I get during Winter months and I do not think you will post 2 different pictures of the same one unless you want to show the variablilty?

Japie

    Bookmark   August 28, 2009 at 2:50AM
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LisaCLV(HI)

Well, between all of you, you seem to have gotten most of them. All but #10, that is. That one seems to have stumped everyone!

Maybe this will help:

Might as well give the answers now:

#1) Neo. concentrica 'Bill Morris'
#2) Ae. 'Rakete'
#3) Bill. 'New Years Eve'
#4) Neo. 'Crayola'
#5) Vr. 'Sunset'
#6) Neo. 'Pink Sensation'
#7) Vr. platynema v. variegata
#8) Neo. 'Amazing Grace'
#9) Ae. chantinii 'Samurai'
#10) Neo. princeps
#11) big scary cow........ oh wait, I mean Ae. zebrina
#12) Vr. splendens 'Meyer's Favorite'
#13) Bill. vittata 'Domingos Martins'
#14) Vr. fosteriana 'Vista'
#15) Neo. rubrovittata
#16) Ques. marmorata 'Tim Plowman'
#17) Vr. ospinae v. gruberi
#18) Ed. lindenii albomarginated (thanks Ross for the 'Alvim Seidel' name, didn't know that)
#19) Werauhia kupperiana
#20) Neo. carcharodon 'Tiger'

Sorry, no cigars, but Japie and Kerry tied at 15 points each, so maybe they can split one. Yong was right behind with 14 (and probably would have gotten 15 if he'd taken a guess on #20) so you'd better let him have a puff too!

Thanks for playing!

    Bookmark   August 28, 2009 at 3:30AM
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LisaCLV(HI)

Sorry, Japie, you snuck that last one in while I was writing. Maybe you can have the first puff on the cigar. ;-)

    Bookmark   August 28, 2009 at 3:36AM
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avane_gw

#10 - Neo princeps

    Bookmark   August 28, 2009 at 3:39AM
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graykiwi

Me again...I couldn't concentrate properly on work this avo thanks Lisa, so had to cheat and look up a book or two when I got home to appease my mind..

#2 Ae. Rainbow
#5 Guz. Kapoho Fire
#6 Neo. Chirripo or Roy's Special ?
#7 Vr. Royal Hawaiian (if not PV ?)
#10 Something is telling me Aechmea, not Ques ?...real stumped on that one?
#13 Bill. Halleluja (if not DM ?)

Looking forward to POOOM ! (put out of our misery)

Graeme

    Bookmark   August 28, 2009 at 3:49AM
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LisaCLV(HI)

You missed POOOM already, Graeme. Look above!

    Bookmark   August 28, 2009 at 4:20AM
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devo_2006

Very cool LisaÂthis will go down in GW history as a classic and yes, a fun quiz. BTW, I had a great sleep last night, & actually thought of a few leaf pattern combinations I want to try out in hybridsÂmay be I should study leaf patterns each night before I go to bed! ThereÂs no way I would have got up to 15/20, but IÂm glad #1 turned out to be a neo concentrica hybridÂthat one really did bug me! It was those 2 little leaf spines in the top left cornerÂthen a gapÂI knew IÂd seen that trait before, combined with the texture of the pattern.

Your picÂs just go to show what a fantastic range of leaf patterns this diverse family of plants has.

OK, now whatÂs the next quiz? The kids are ready for moreÂ

    Bookmark   August 28, 2009 at 5:17AM
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LisaCLV(HI)

Oh, I have more if you want 'em......

    Bookmark   August 28, 2009 at 2:10PM
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avane_gw

I'll second Andrew . . .

So, bring them on, dear Teacher ...

however, does she also care to explain how does one go about convincing Bill Morris to achieve such exquisite leaf markings?

    Bookmark   August 28, 2009 at 3:57PM
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udo69

Hello All,

Thank Lisa for bringing a wonderful quiz to us. There is a lot of marvelous leaf patterns in Broms world. We have to learn to distinguish this such plants. It's a good quiz.

I'm second with all. We want more ........... ;-)

Cheers
Yong

    Bookmark   August 29, 2009 at 3:26AM
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kerry_t_australia(9)

What a hoot! Bring'em on, Lisa!

But please Miss, Japie won't share the cigar!

K :)

    Bookmark   August 29, 2009 at 4:07AM
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vriesea

There is no doubt that nature is the ultimate artist

    Bookmark   August 29, 2009 at 7:39AM
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LisaCLV(HI)

Okay, I've got lots more photos in the file now. I'll process them and have another one up in a few days. Heck, I've got enough for a whole series! You guys are soooooo gonna regret encouraging me. ;-)

    Bookmark   August 29, 2009 at 1:52PM
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splinter1804

Hi everyone,

Lisa, I'm prety hopeless at this, but I do enjoy looking through your "stain glass window" look alikes.

The knowledge and skill of the GW members to be able to identify plants from a little bit of leaf is truly amazing.

Keep up the good work, all the best, Nev.

    Bookmark   August 29, 2009 at 5:16PM
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sdandy

Ok Lisa, my one request? Do some apprentice-level quizzes. 20 was really overwhelming...if I'm going to be wrong, its easier on the ego to only be wrong on 10 at a time rather than 20 at a time! Ha ha.

Looking forward to more!
-andy

    Bookmark   August 29, 2009 at 8:23PM
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