Blue Bird Jade - opinions please

lme5573April 1, 2013

I got this beautiful Blue Bird Jade September '12 from a very generous GW member. It's starting to grow, but as you can see it's got new growth bumping up against a leaf. I have let it go on, hoping it could duke it out naturally.

It's growing in my plant stand, and I have tried to position it to encourage a little sideways movement. No luck, neither leaf nor sprout wants to give way.

I've googled and tried to find pictures of Blue Bird Jades, but I don't find many pictures that show the whole plant and branches.

Any opinions? If this kind of jade grows with lots of branches, then I'm just as happy to let it grow.

Thanks! Lennie in Michigan - a skiff of snow on the ground, but they predict warmer weather next week.

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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Hello!
The leaves will make way eventually, but you could always pluck the larger leaf above the new growth.

Josh

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Microthrix(9)

Maybe carefully pluck the leaf above, and plant it to make a new plant?

    Bookmark   April 1, 2013 at 1:08PM
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lme5573

Thanks! I think I'll wait another week and then pick the leaf and let it root. I've had some good luck rooting other jade leaves, I just don't want to damage the main trunk when I take it. Thanks! Lennie

    Bookmark   April 1, 2013 at 4:00PM
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marguerite_gw

I wonder if there are different types of Blue Bird jade. I bought mine last year from a UK nursery, and the leaves are much more angular in shape than yours. I really like the more oval leaved type that you have.

    Bookmark   April 2, 2013 at 7:35AM
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lme5573

I was thinking the same thing, Marguerite. I've been reading descriptions of Blue Bird jade, and they use words like twisted leaf pairs. Mine aren't twisted at all. They are more like little surf boards. It is starting to put out new growth, and the new leaves have a bit more curl, so maybe it is environmental. Here is another picture that shows the whole plant. I plan to keep an eye on the Home Depot plants and pick up another if I see one that is have a bit more wave.
I'd love to see a picture of yours, Marguerite.
Lennie in Michigan

    Bookmark   April 2, 2013 at 8:28AM
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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Lennie, it's a nice plant whatever it is ;-)
Could you take a pic from the top down, showing off the leaves?

Now that I see it, I suspect it might be Crassula ovata obliqua, the green form.

Josh

    Bookmark   April 2, 2013 at 9:59AM
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lme5573

Thanks, Josh. I took lots of pictures yesterday, and here's the view from top down. The leaves are a beautiful frosty blue-gray color, exactly like my Silver Dollar Jade. But I can't see any red edge or the little dots. New growth is shiny green, but turns frosty when it gets bigger. I also see a little point on the newest leaves like my obliqua, but it rounds off as it grows. My obliqua leaves have some curl and twist and a point on the end. I suspect this plant is a hybrid of Silver Dollar and obliqua, but that's just my opinion.
Thanks for looking!
Lennie

    Bookmark   April 2, 2013 at 10:35AM
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lme5573

forgot to say it is in a 4" pot, and is 4" tall. It "rested" all winter, and is just starting to put out new growth. I have it growing under my plant lights, about 10 hours/day.

    Bookmark   April 2, 2013 at 10:41AM
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marguerite_gw

Hi Lennie,

I'll be back with a pic as quickly as possible.

    Bookmark   April 4, 2013 at 12:09PM
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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Lennie, thanks for the pic.
You're right, those leaves are unique...not quite a match for obliqua, but showing similar traits. Once/If it gets outdoors for the Summer, the plant may take on a more defined look.

Josh

    Bookmark   April 4, 2013 at 1:25PM
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marguerite_gw

Now, Lennie, at last, the picture I promised of my crassula 'Bluebird' .

    Bookmark   April 8, 2013 at 3:52PM
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lme5573

That is a beautiful plant, Marguerite. And I think you are right, mine is definitely different from yours. My leaves do not curl like that at all, and the leaf shape is different, too. I think mine might eventually start showing a bit of the red edge, but mine must have mutated or sported at some point. Thanks for sharing. :-)
Lennie in Michigan

    Bookmark   April 8, 2013 at 4:06PM
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marguerite_gw

Thank you, Lennie. Actually I think the winter has been a bit hard on the plant, it dropped a piece which I am leaving unpotted to root, that piece had buds and has now flowered, and the flowers are pink, a lovely contrast to the leaves. I wonder why it fell off the plant, but perhaps it was too dry.

I love the look of the crassula they call Silver Dollar here, but it doesn't seem to be for sale in our part of the world.

    Bookmark   April 9, 2013 at 12:54PM
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marguerite_gw

A month ago I received cuttings which look exactly like the plant the original poster, Lennie, posted about in this thread two years ago. They were given to me as Crassula arborescens from a botanic gardens. I am now convinced that there are several jade plants going under the name of Crassula 'Bluebird', but I don't know how to sort the confusion. You can see one of mine above, in this thread. Another was the one I posted for Nancy standing beside my Crassula arborescens 'Silver Dollar Jade' a week or so ago, and is the one shown here now.

The one I showed on the Cacti Gallery in my 'Cabbage' thread was another. Has

anyone else got 'Bluebird' jades to show to help sort this out? Opinions would be valued too.

    Bookmark   on Sunday at 1:47PM
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ehuns27 7a PA

Lennie, those leaves are very unique and interesting. Here is a picture of my Silver Dollar jade. You should definitely consider trying to propagate to see how a new plant would grow. I have never seen a jade like yours.


I'll be plucking off some of the lower leaves once it gets used to it's new pot.

-Erica

    Bookmark   on Sunday at 4:34PM
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marguerite_gw

Erica, did you buy that as Silver Dollar jade? It reminds me a lot of Lennie's plant, above. I'm not sure if Lennie still calls in here.

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ehuns27 7a PA

I didn't even notice the time stamp on those! I did buy this as 'Silver Dollar'. Probably from a big box store. I just recently did a repot so I'll see how it grows on it's own. I've kept it in a nice sunny window. Yours looks like a completely different shade of green, maybe from culture? The leaves on Lennie's plant look like the same color with a different leave shape. I think a staple to these Silver Dollar jades is the little dots around the edges just under the red.

-Erica

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oks2n2

Hi Lennie!
I seem your Blue Bird Jade is C. arborescens ssp. undulatifolia (or Blue Bird) with Ovata-like leaves. There are widespread C. arborescens ssp. undulatifolia with Obliqua leaves. This is a natural species too.

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oks2n2

Erica
your Jade is C. arborescens ssp. arborescens with Obliqua-like leaves.
Oksana.

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ehuns27 7a PA

Thanks Oksana!

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marguerite_gw

Erica, I agree about the green on my plant above. The cuttings I am rooting are very like Lennie's in colour, also your own very beautiful plant. During the summer I shall get all my different Crassulas arborescens together for a group photo, that might clarify things,

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ehuns27 7a PA

That would be great Marguerite! I'll be sure to do the same.

-Erica

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camellia1_gw

There's some good information on this post.

http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/2936596/crassula-bonsai-lover?n=44

I think your plant looks like the 3rd picture that was posted from Laurent.

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