I confused Joe-Pye with Ironweed!!!

dragonflydeeJuly 2, 2014

well they DO ...
Look a little alike! But I have this old book of Autochromes plates
And among over 200 color tinted photographs of wildflowers( most
Life-sized) I found Vernonia noveboracensis(Ironweed) on plate
227 7"x9" Autochrome photo.

Joe-Pye Weed(Purple Boneset) was on the next page(plate 228)
And titled Eupatorium purpureum Autochrome photo also 7" x9".

The difference between the two plants was very easy to see,and
I realize I have never seen a Joe-Pye Weed here on my place.

But I have started a lot of the IronWeed here in my yard,and
The butterflies are very fond of it!

Deer and wild rabbits will browse it some,so I cage it a lot;the
Plants are just now getting ready to make their purple-blue

This old hardcover book was published by MacMillan in 1935.
It is titled WILDFLOWERS by Homer D. house. The book has
Three hundred and sixty-four full color illustrations(Autochromes)
Plus text.The overall size of the book is abt 11"x 9".
I have not been thru all the plates yet.


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misssherry(Z8/9SE MS)

I bought and planted some ironweed in my garden this year, because I love the dark purple color of the flowers, and so do butterflies. The butterflies love joe-pye weed, too, but I don't like it as much - the flowers are sort of pale pink/mauve, and they get WAY too tall, always wind up bent over.

The colors in those old books aren't true, that's for sure!


    Bookmark   July 2, 2014 at 6:21PM
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I bought two Missouri Ironweeds last year. One is getting very tall (the other is behind due to lack of sun/constant moving) and I love them. More importantly, the butterflies do. We both win :)

    Bookmark   July 2, 2014 at 8:28PM
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I have both Joe-Pye and Ironweed. I love them both, and so do the butterflies. Any plant in this tribe within Asteraceae makes an excellent nectar source. That includes Liatris and Ageratum as well.


    Bookmark   July 3, 2014 at 2:55AM
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I'd gladly give my Joe Pye Weeds to someone who'd pay the postage to get them. They don't attract the butterflies at all here.

    Bookmark   July 3, 2014 at 6:57PM
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KC Clark - Zone 2012-6a OH

My ironweed always falls over sometime during the summer. Sometime during this past winter, I read somewhere about cutting them back in June to stop this. So, that is what I did. Waiting to see the results.

    Bookmark   July 4, 2014 at 11:20AM
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misssherry(Z8/9SE MS)

Hmmmmm.......mine are getting taller than I expected, KC. I hope they don't grow 10' tall like the joe pye weed!


    Bookmark   July 4, 2014 at 12:57PM
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I had to stake my ironweed the first year because they kept flopping over. From the second year onward they didn't need it.

    Bookmark   July 5, 2014 at 9:33PM
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One way to combat the height of Joe-Pye weed is to cut it down to about three feet in early June. It will still flower and may not need staking.

    Bookmark   July 5, 2014 at 9:37PM
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docmom_gw Zone 5 MI(5)

I have both, also. My Ironweed should bloom this year. The Joe Pye Weed has been a great general pollinator attraction, and it always has huge holes eaten from its leaves. So, some kind of larvae enjoy it. I like it as a tall backdrop for my other perennials. It provides a division between my front sunny bed and the shaded hosta/fern area under the evergreens.


    Bookmark   July 6, 2014 at 10:18AM
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