My new babies

0nametaken0April 12, 2013

So I bought 30 succulents from ebay. This is the first batch. Really excited. Im new to succulents though and I still need help with my sempervivum, thats another thread, hope someone replies there.

Since all of these are succulents, Im hoping to put all of them outside for the summer. Temps. will hit 40c in my balcony, Im not sure if they all can take the heat. I will also be watering them every 2 days during the hot summer days. They will be planted in succulent soil mix. Does that sound about right? Any tips? I would really like it if someone does as Im trying to grow plants for the first time. Ive grown aquatic plants for a few years so Im an expert in them, but not in non drowned plants :)

What you see in the pic are (badly worded description from ebay):

green snowman is senecio articulatus or candle plant,
the purple one next to it is either Fred Ives or Pearl Von Nuremburg.

Others are Darley Sunshine
Jet Beads
Crassula Calico Kitten
Donkey's Tail
String of Pearls
Pork and Beans
String of Buttons
Baby Necklace
Compact Jade
Sedum Praeltum 'Cristata"
2 variegated Elephant Bush
String of Bannanas
Red flower Zygocactus

The following will hopefully ship tomorrow to my place:

Euphorbia tirucalli, Pencil Cactus, Stick on Fire
Aeonium arboreum 'Atropurpureum' (Purple Aeonium)
Aeonium percarneum cv. 'Kiwi' (Kiwi Aeonium, tricolor)
Senecio mandraliscae, (Blue Chalk Sticks)
crassula tetragona (mini pine tree)
Faucaria tigrina, (TigerâÂÂs jaw)
Graptoveria 'Titubans'
Graptoveria gilva
Sedum rubrotinctum (Jelly Bean, Pork and Beans)
Kalanchoe 'Houghtonii'
Echeveria 'Haageana'


This post was edited by NameTaken on Fri, Apr 12, 13 at 17:49

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Updates with pic. I still dont know how to post more than one.

So I really hope I dont kill any of these.

    Bookmark   April 13, 2013 at 11:35AM
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rosemariero(Z9 SW SUNDiegoCA)

Quite the haul you've got there, NameTaken! With the combo of common names & some Latin, you're going to have fun sorting them out. I don't see some of those you mentioned & some seem to be misidentified...but hard to tell with SO many cuttings in the pix. Thanks for sharing your new treasures with us!

Note: If you're uploading directing to GW forum from your computer, then you can only do one at a time. If using an online photo-hosting site, then you'd be capable of more than one pic in your posts.

    Bookmark   April 13, 2013 at 12:43PM
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Thanks for the reply, if you could post the names of what you dont see, perhaps I could take a look. They are at my bros place atm, so I dont have access to them. Im hoping to be there next weekend, where I can better inspect and take pics.

Once again, thanks for the reply :)

    Bookmark   April 13, 2013 at 1:31PM
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rosemariero(Z9 SW SUNDiegoCA)

If you can find cactus soil at a garden center (or similar) & add something to it to help with drainage (perlite, pumice, dry stall, chicken grit, etc.) you would probably have what you need to pot up all & place on your balcony.

As these have no roots, I'd use just moist soil at first, not watering until you know they have roots (a little tug). After established, water when dry.

green snowman is senecio articulatus or candle plant, ~ Yes, Senecio articulatus
the purple one next to it is either Fred Ives or Pearl Von Nuremburg. ~perhaps XGraptoveria 'Fred Ives' (I doubt Echeveria 'Perle von Nurnberg')

Others are Darley Sunshine ~if they mean xGraptosedum 'Darley Sunshine', that may or may not be it
Jet Beads ~ xSedeveria 'Jet Beads'...maybe the one shown, with dark leaves spaced out on stem
Crassula Calico Kitten ~ Crassula pellucida 'Variegata' ~ looks like 2 stems of this, but hard to tell if it has the look of stitching on the leaf edges
Donkey's Tail ~ don't see Sedum morganianum, but do see Sedum burrito
String of Pearls ~ Senecio rowleyanus
Pork and Beans ~ Sedum rubrotinctum
String of Buttons ~wonder if they are calling the Crassula perforata, large form, this
Baby Necklace ~ don't see this
Hobbit ~ Crassula 'Hobbit', yes
Gollum ~ Crassula 'Gollum', yes
Compact Jade ~ Crassula 'Crosby's Compact'
Sedum Praeltum 'Cristata" ~ hard to tell if it is cristated, but yes, looks like Sedum praeltum
2 variegated Elephant Bush ~ don't see this in the 1st photo, but maybe a non-variegated one in the 2nd pic, Portulacaria afra
String of Bannanas ~ Senecio radicans (String of Bananas)
Red flower Zygocactus ~ Schlumbergera truncata

2nd photo:
Euphorbia tirucalli, Pencil Cactus, Stick on Fire ~that would be Euphorbia 'Sticks on Fire'
Aeonium arboreum 'Atropurpureum' (Purple Aeonium) ~ yes
Aeonium percarneum cv. 'Kiwi' (Kiwi Aeonium, tricolor) ~can go by just Aeonium 'Kiwi'
Senecio mandraliscae, (Blue Chalk Sticks) ~yes, seems likely
crassula tetragona (mini pine tree) ~ yes, with a capital C
Faucaria tigrina, (TigerâÂÂs jaw) ~ yes
Graptoveria 'Titubans' ~ may or may not be...doesn't seem chunky enough to be xGraptoveria 'Tibutans'
Graptoveria gilva ~ if you had it, would be Echeveria 'Gilva', but I don't see it
Sedum rubrotinctum (Jelly Bean, Pork and Beans) ~ yes
Kalanchoe 'Houghtonii' ~ Kalanchoe x houghtonii
Echeveria 'Haageana' ~don't see it

*There are 2 in the pic that look like they may be Senecio, but hard to say without a closer look.
If you are unsure of certain ones & want to photograph them individually, then repost for ID.

    Bookmark   April 13, 2013 at 6:09PM
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wow, thanks rose. I will for sure take a better, more detailed pics when I get the chance. I will repost and keep this updated. Thank you very much. If there are that many non matching names, then Ill complain to the seller.

    Bookmark   April 13, 2013 at 6:36PM
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Good luck with all of those! Great way to build a collection and I hope they all do well for you.

    Bookmark   April 14, 2013 at 9:47AM
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Thanks, I hope they do well as well :)

New pics, taken from cell.

    Bookmark   April 14, 2013 at 5:57PM
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Hey guys, update, I will post new pics this weekend. I just wanted to know if its safe enough to put these guys outside. My overnight temps are reaching 10c and high is btw 14 to 19c. I think its still too chilly? Im going to throw my semps outside, I know they can survive up to -40c. I just didnt want to give them a shock by moving from 24c (in my room for 3 months) to cold weather.

    Bookmark   April 27, 2013 at 12:27AM
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rosemariero(Z9 SW SUNDiegoCA)

If your overnight lows are 10C (50F), I think it would be safe to put them out. Maybe others who live in Canada can help out~if they know other factors I don't! =) Maybe if you put them near a wall (some protection) & gradually move them out further?

    Bookmark   April 27, 2013 at 12:56PM
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Thanks, Ill wait a bit so it gets a bit warmer before I put them outside. I still have to buy containers for them.

    Bookmark   April 27, 2013 at 2:13PM
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So Ive moved some of my semps outside. My succulents are still inside as day time temps hit 24c and overnight 10c.

One of my succulent flowered :)


This post was edited by NameTaken on Sat, May 11, 13 at 11:54

    Bookmark   May 11, 2013 at 11:53AM
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    Bookmark   May 11, 2013 at 11:55AM
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Awww--it's soooo cute!

    Bookmark   May 11, 2013 at 7:50PM
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Nice little collection. I'm sure once settled, they will start to branch out and fill up your space. ;]

    Bookmark   May 12, 2013 at 12:47AM
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Thanks guys :)

Yes I finally got a new container, now the search starts for a proper soil mix.

    Bookmark   May 12, 2013 at 5:20PM
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rosemariero(Z9 SW SUNDiegoCA)

Nice little bloom! :) Just saw your (similar) post on the Cactiguide forum, Samee. :P

    Bookmark   May 12, 2013 at 6:19PM
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Thanks :) that forum is kinda inactive. I wanted a forum that was very active, as I joined because I wanted to learn more about what I have.

    Bookmark   May 12, 2013 at 11:03PM
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If pics dont work, please visit this thread:

Ok big blog post. I just finished a huge post over at my aquarium journal thread, please check it out and comment, link in my sig.

So when I was in US, I bought Lava rock and pea gravel. Big bags. I also bought a bag of cacti and suc soil. Since all succulent soil on the market suck, it was up to me to make a good mix. Ive used the cacti and succulent soil before and it becomes a piece of foam thats rock hard. Its terrible. I know because I transferred my plants here and there today.

Ok so the lava rock was too big. I wanted to make it the size of pea gravel but it was just too much work. The reason you need all material of the same size is because water tends to make a layer over the odd sized stuff. So water would drain around the gravel but pond up over the big lava rock. Atleast thats what I think I read elsewhere. So I spent about 2 hours or so hammering lava rock. Made a mess of the balcony. I coundnt hammer hard enough or else my neighbours would knock at my door.

The plastic container is huge but even then I couldnt condense my other hens and chicks. I wanted to reduce the pot/container use but couldnt. I also made the same soil mix for my Sago Palm. I love that plant. Bought it for $1.50 because it was "damaged". The leaves are yellow as you can see. Im assuming it was over watered. Dont worry baby you're in the right hands now :)

So it begins

The mess



I couldnt set the top layer becuase there are too man small succulents everywhere. So setting it would be hard. Not to mention I ran out of the soil bag. So maybe next week I might get more and top it up. I still have to move around a few soil pots.

    Bookmark   June 2, 2013 at 8:09PM
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Tiffany, purpleinopp GardenWeb, Z8b Opp, AL(8B AL)

The mess


    Bookmark   March 4, 2014 at 9:29AM
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Crenda SWFL 10A

purpleinopp - how are you breaking up the lava rock? Just whomping it with the hammer? I've done that - a little tedious, and I have pieces flying around, but it works. Do the 2x4's play a part, or just happen to be in the picture? I would love to know a quicker way. Hubby suggested running over it with the car! LOL

    Bookmark   March 4, 2014 at 10:14AM
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Hi Crenda, purpleinopp was kind enough to post the images correctly so they would appear on the forum. If you check the post above, it has various img links that do not show up.

This thread was bumped because recently I posted the aftermath of my work.

Yes I spent a good hour or two hammering the lava rocks. Then I threw them in a bucket and rolled the bucket around so the sharp edges would smooth out. Im not sure if that worked, but from what I saw, the succulents loved it. The 2x4s were used as a seat, in the cramped balcony :)

    Bookmark   March 4, 2014 at 10:21AM
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Tiffany, purpleinopp GardenWeb, Z8b Opp, AL(8B AL)

Yes, I wanted to see your pics mentioned in the other post - and there happens to be a pic of the hole(s) I asked about. Helpful to see. The holes in the plastic thing look small enough to easily become clogged by particles from the soil, or roots of plants.

When you spread things out in a thin layer like this, the amount of 'bottom soil' that takes the longest to dry out is maximized (even though it can dry more quickly from the surface.) Counter-intuitive. Had this container been clay, or wood, it might have been more successful.

Had you put a larger hole in one corner, so you could tilt after watering to remove a lot more excess water, it might be more successful. If you've never tilted a pot after watering, you'd be shocked at how much more water comes out even after it seems to have finished dripping - no matter what kind of 'soil' is used.

I'm not good at all at looking at pics of 'dirt' and knowing if it's 'good' or not, but this doesn't look like what I would use, just from the pic. The pic and my eyes might not be interpreting the reality correctly, but it looks like there are a lot of tiny particles. These clog/fill all available spaces so there's no air in the soil (and possibly clogging the drain holes.) Roots must have oxygen and moisture at the same time to function, so this is why tiny particles of peat, sand, silt, clay are not good for growing in a pot, especially succulents, which are especially sensitive to having only moisture but no oxygen (which leads to rot.)

This winter has been especially hard on a lot of plants brought inside to escape cold because of soooo many extra cloudy days in most places.

I've not used the photo hosting site you did for these pics, but most offer several options to copy/paste. In the future, use HTML option to display images here. It should look like this w/o spaces:

If you can see your pics when you click preview, they will be there when you submit.

    Bookmark   March 4, 2014 at 10:47AM
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Crenda SWFL 10A

Thanks - I thought maybe you placed the lava rock between the boards and then hammered away. I wondered if that worked better. I put mine in a box with a hard surface and tried to contain the dust. Then the bottom of the box broke and the dust went everywhere! It was worse than if I had just hammered on the floor.

Your plants are coming along nicely! I'm sure you will make each other happy.

    Bookmark   March 4, 2014 at 11:09AM
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Thanks Crenda, unfortunately majority died. It was the darn mealies that I did not know off. You can check out updated pics in this thread:

Purp. I see your concern, but I dont see it as a problem. The holes are small but it will take many years to get clogged. The process refers to settling. The only thing that can block the holes is the pea gravel. Since I water once a week during summer and once every two months during winter, it will take a very long time. The depth is about 5 inches of soil. I mixed roughly 60 lava/gravel to 40 succulent soil. So far Ive never had a succculent die on me due to over watering.

I have tropical plants and I do tilt the pots after a good watering, but the amount of water to the succulents is not enough to warrant a tilt. I take my tropical plants to the washroom and give them a shower over my tub. I then let the water seep out for a while before tilting and taking them back. The succulents are outside in the sun and heat so theres never been a time where the soils remained wet for a long time. When inside during winter I water them lightly.

    Bookmark   March 4, 2014 at 11:37AM
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