Flytrap and sarracenia dormancy

karachigardener(11)February 27, 2013

Hi guys,
I have recently bought three sarracenias and a Venus flytrap
Since I live in an area where the winters do not go below 20 ish degrees c
(around 65 f) how would I successfully be able to make the plants complete their dormancy?

I have read that the fridge method is my only option, but some people say that the plants will die out of shock, if I do not do this then will the plants enter dormancy naturally?

What should I do?

The plants are indoors next to a fairly bright window.
I also have a pitcher plant that I have been growing for the past year and it has done well.

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tommyr_gw

You can use the fridge method. In the fall when your temperature gets down to as low as it gets take the pots out of the water tray, drain off the excess water from the pots, put them in zip lock bags and pop them in the fridge. Where are you located?

    Bookmark   February 28, 2013 at 9:26AM
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Leafhead

Rule of thumb:
Thanksgiving to Valentine's day should be their dormancy period.

    Bookmark   February 28, 2013 at 1:33PM
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karachigardener(11)

Are you sure that the fridge method will not stress them too much?
I live in Karachi, Pakistan

    Bookmark   February 28, 2013 at 9:07PM
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tommyr_gw

If you put them in for an hour a day and increase the time each day for about a week until they stay all day they should be fine. This will also slowly reduce their light period which also triggers dormancy.

    Bookmark   March 1, 2013 at 7:15AM
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karachigardener(11)

Ok great I will definitely try that!
Should I use the same method to bring them out of dormancy?

    Bookmark   March 2, 2013 at 1:41AM
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tommyr_gw

I just take them out of the fridge and leave them out but slowly get them used to full Sun in west, south windows.

    Bookmark   March 2, 2013 at 6:54AM
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gerris2

I have a lot to learn about VFT. Is there hope for my plants if I induce dormancy now?

    Bookmark   March 9, 2013 at 10:26AM
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tommyr_gw

Don't bother with dormancy now, it's too late for that. When the last frost has passed your area slowly introduce them to FULL sun, 6+ hours a day until fall.

    Bookmark   March 9, 2013 at 10:32AM
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gerris2

Thank you. I've had them under bright light in short day photoperiod in an aquarium near cold windows. They look ok and even made flower stems over winter. Does the plant require a dormant period for proper health? I suppose so since that is how it evolved?

    Bookmark   March 9, 2013 at 11:55AM
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tommyr_gw

Yes they require 3-4 months of cold for dormancy. Cold, NOT freezing. Mine live in the fridge from about Oct. to Now. Just brought them out in the past week.

    Bookmark   March 9, 2013 at 1:58PM
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karachigardener(11)

Will the plants show signs of dormancy?
If they don't and I put them in the fridge then will it trigger dormancy?
Also, can I sip this year and make them go dormant next year?

    Bookmark   March 12, 2013 at 12:33PM
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Leafhead

The plants will show signs as days grow shorter. Their habit will be more prostate c broader petiole blades. The traps may be smaller in size, too. The bud will produce smaller and smaller leaves.
This is when you should start to introduce them to cold, in mid to late Nov., before the plants begin to flower.
I would bring them out slowly in Mid Feb and let them sit at rm temp for a day before slowly introducing back to full sun in the terrarium.

But at this time, VFTs should be blooming and growing.
I would definitely let them go dormant next year.

    Bookmark   March 12, 2013 at 1:40PM
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karachigardener(11)

I do not think that my plants are doing too well I will put pictures of them up shortly. Any suggestions are appreciated. I want to know what I should do to them to make them grow better, they get about an hour of strong sunlight and then bright shade for like 7 more hours, this might be all they can handle because if they get anymore sun, I think that they will wilt in the heat. How heat tolerant are they? Also, can someone give me the botanical names of each of them?

    Bookmark   March 13, 2013 at 10:24AM
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karachigardener(11)

ok ignore the last follow up for some reason i am not able to put the pictures up...

    Bookmark   March 13, 2013 at 1:49PM
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tommyr_gw

They may be doing bad because they're not getting ENOUGH Sun. SLOWLY each day introduce it to more and more Sun. Until they are in 6+ hours or more a day.

    Bookmark   March 13, 2013 at 4:41PM
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karachigardener(11)

But will they tolerate the heat?

    Bookmark   March 15, 2013 at 6:15AM
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tommyr_gw

Yes.

    Bookmark   March 15, 2013 at 6:24AM
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karachigardener(11)

Ok I tried that method and now they are in full sun.
They recieve about 8 or more hours of sun everyday and each plant has a tray of water underneath it at all times. They are given distiller water.
They have been like this for about a week and the parrot pitcher plant seems to be getting red around the edges of its completely green leaves. Also, one of the new pitchers of the sarracenia flava is turning completely red, (the old picthers are not like this).
The flytrap has shown no sign of change but is has grown two new leaves. The other sarracenias have developed brown edges at the ends of their pitcher lids and some of the their old pitchers have drying out lips.

The brown edges and dried out lips had occurred when the plants were next to the window and the other changes (the red colouring etc) have come after putting the plants outdoors. Does this show that the plants are doing well or do they possibly have too much sun? The temperature keeps fluctuating between the high 90s and mid 80s and it will rise up to the 110s in the hot summer months.

    Bookmark   March 23, 2013 at 2:22AM
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tommyr_gw

Leave them alone and clip off any dead pitchers or traps. Give them time to settle in.

    Bookmark   March 23, 2013 at 7:20AM
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karachigardener(11)

Ok fine.
And the red colouring is normal?

    Bookmark   March 23, 2013 at 7:30AM
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karachigardener(11)

Is the red colouring the true color of the pitchers or are the plants getting a bit sun burned while the are in the process of getting used to the full sun?

    Bookmark   March 23, 2013 at 7:39AM
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tommyr_gw

Yes, parrot pitcher plants are normally red colored. If you acclimated them to Sun properly there will be no problems. Give them a few more weeks time to settle in.

    Bookmark   March 23, 2013 at 10:15AM
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karachigardener(11)

ok i have good news!!!
the flytrap has been making some new leaves and i fed one of them and the trap closed instantly. the sarracenias have also made many new leaves. i also found an extremely tiny parrot pitcher plant baby growing in the same pot as my parrot pitcher. the leaves of it are less than half an inch high and they are all coming from a separate plant.(not the main plant.) i was wondering if i could make a new plant out of this somehow. recently, the trays of water underneath the plants dried out for a day as i was away and the plants are fine.

    Bookmark   March 26, 2013 at 9:24AM
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tommyr_gw

Leave the baby pitcher plants alone. The tray drying out for a day or 2 won't hurt them but refill ASAP when you see that happen.

    Bookmark   March 26, 2013 at 5:47PM
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