Adenium, Desert Rose 101 needed! HALP!

smoochas(zone 7a-NYC)June 22, 2010

My very first adenium plant is the crazy TALL and THIN one you see in the picture below. I purchased it at Kmart probably 10 yrs ago. Out of all my plants, its the only adenium EVER to flower! I think it flowers at least ONCE a year. The others that you see, I've had them for probably 5 yrs and they have NEVER ever flowered. I probably only fertilized them once a year and I know they are in the wrong soil and really needing a repot in the Gritty Mix.

Does any have a good books to recommend on how to take care of adeniums for a beginner like me? I actually had no idea I was suppose to prune and cut/shape them until I started reading this website. Help me help these babies please!

For example, the super tall one, is there a good place that I can snip it?

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rjj1(Norman OK Zone7)

Hi,

Would it be safe to say these plants have only seen full sun outdoors in their dreams? :-)

As far as pruning goes, I'm not sure how much that will help. Until you can provide better growing conditions, it's just an unneeded band-aid.

There are a number of posts here that deal with some of your questions. Here's one below that might help. That might keep me from having to write a book just for you. :-)

As far as books go, if you want a good one, buy the Mark Dimmit/Gene Joseph/ David Paskill "Adenium: Sculptural Elegance, Floral Extravagance."

randy

Here is a link that might be useful: Another thread on this forum

    Bookmark   June 22, 2010 at 12:03PM
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rjj1(Norman OK Zone7)

Like I posted in the other thread, after you have read the link provided and have specific questions, I'll be glad to help if I can.

ole grumpy gills

    Bookmark   June 22, 2010 at 12:10PM
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smoochas(zone 7a-NYC)

About full outdoor sun pipedream, unfortunately that's correct. For years we lived in an apartment where they all sat on the window sill. We've moved. They now hang out on that shelf, right under a frosted glass skylight that gets full sun in the afternoon. I'm guessing that is still not the same as sitting outside in the backyard? I really rather not take them between indoor/outdoor since I will have to move them back indoors in our winters. If I don't take them outside, is it a lost cause? How to test sufficiency of their current lighting conditions scientifically, light meter maybe?

    Bookmark   June 22, 2010 at 1:07PM
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rjj1(Norman OK Zone7)

Sorry, I can't be of much help to you then. In my opinion there is no such thing as full sun indoors. There is only one directional diffused light that might pass for sun to some.

As far as moving plants in and out, I only move a few thousand plants each growing season. IMO there is no substitute for the real thing.

Good luck with your plants. Hopefully someone that does the indoors full time thing can help you out more. Adeniums for the most part are not full time houseplants as you have discovered.

ole grumpy gills

    Bookmark   June 22, 2010 at 1:20PM
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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

I put many of my plants outdoors during the summer so that they are as healthy as possible for the winter months ahead.

Randy's right - there is no substitute for the real thing.

Josh

    Bookmark   June 22, 2010 at 1:54PM
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smoochas(zone 7a-NYC)

Gills & Josh, I guess now that I CAN move them outside, maybe I should consider it... I'm really worried, though, about bringing in mites and other outdoorsy critter stuff into the house when it gets cold. How do you deal with that?

    Bookmark   June 22, 2010 at 2:21PM
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andrew78(6)

Hi Smoochas,
Whenever I bring plants back in for the winter, I will spray them down with an isecticidal soap to prevent any critters from coming in with them. Best to also isolate them for a while when you bring them back in just to make sure there is nothing on them.
Andrew

    Bookmark   June 22, 2010 at 3:34PM
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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Smoochas,
I use soil-less mixes that don't really harbor pests.
In short, I don't do anything when I bring my plants back in - other than remove any
leaf-litter or other debris that might have blown into the containers.

Josh

    Bookmark   June 22, 2010 at 3:52PM
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rjj1(Norman OK Zone7)

As far as pests, I've never had a problem when bringing in plants in the fall. I did accidentally bring in a tree frog a few years ago. :-)

Keep a lot of big plants in the living room over the winter. My girls freaked out that first night watching television when it started serenading us.

randy

    Bookmark   June 22, 2010 at 4:52PM
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newnie(6a/6b)

AWESOME FROG!!!
Did you identify it? I used to have a ton of wood toads at my old house... now all I have is Bullfrogs.

    Bookmark   June 22, 2010 at 5:18PM
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smoochas(zone 7a-NYC)

Randy, that's exactly the critters I cannot afford to bring inside! DO NOT WAAAANT! lol

    Bookmark   June 22, 2010 at 8:59PM
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blutarski

I've found that my plants come in less buggy than they go out (I have a mealy bug 'issue' in my office.)

In addition to the sunlight, adeniums like hot muggy weather. I've learned that drafts of air-conditioned air are not good.

don't forget to expose your plants slowly to direct sunlight, or they'll burn

    Bookmark   June 22, 2010 at 9:36PM
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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Last winter I had six frogs slowly "reveal" themselves in the evenings....
they always end up in my Hoya containers, which I hang in the trees out front.
They're good critters...they eat other critters ;)

Josh

    Bookmark   June 22, 2010 at 9:39PM
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ltran54(9)

I got some tricks how to care for DR in
this forum under(desert rose looking nicely)

These are my pictures of 2010 and 2009 if link doesn't work copy and paste

http://picasaweb.google.com/longcucpaul/HoaSuThaiLan2009#

http://s585.photobucket.com/albums/ss298/Ltran54/Desert%20Rose%202010/?action=view&current=200.jpg&evt=user_media_share

    Bookmark   June 23, 2010 at 5:23PM
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ltran54(9)

I had some tricks in this forum under (desert rose looking nicely)
I have a collection of DR, most of them already bloom, but 2 slowly taking their time. These pictures I took this morning. First 2 plants are 4 years old.
href="http://s585.photobucket.com/albums/ss298/Ltran54/Desert%20Rose%202010/?action=view¤t=Picture891.jpg" target="_blank">


This plant is 7 years old, every year even when it was a baby still carried a full head of blooms.

    Bookmark   June 23, 2010 at 5:57PM
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norma_2006

Mark is the expert, and known for being so. Get his book. Norma

    Bookmark   June 24, 2010 at 12:21AM
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cactusmcharris

And here I thought it was one of those expensive (>$100) books, and it's not!

Here is a link that might be useful: Inexpensive Adenium Book

    Bookmark   June 24, 2010 at 11:55AM
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rjj1(Norman OK Zone7)

Jeffery,

One of Mark's main strategies in putting together this great book was to keep the average Joe in mind and make it affordable to most hobbyists.

randy

    Bookmark   June 24, 2010 at 12:04PM
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cactusmcharris

Randy,

Well, that's certainly refreshing to see that objective in mind when creating the book.

    Bookmark   June 24, 2010 at 12:19PM
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smoochas(zone 7a-NYC)

I finally managed to track down all the ingredients for the gritty mix and am in the process of re-potting all of my severely neglected adeniums and succulents. YAY!

I've taken the little adeniums outside for morning sun for 2-3hrs for a couple of days now. I think I'm safe to leave them outside for the rest of the summer, right? I'm a bit apprehensive as we are having a heat wave here with 90-100degree weather right now. Water everyday and they will be okay?

Now for the big tall adenium... This is what the caudex looked like when we got it out of the pot.

How much can you expose the caudex without compromising the plant? We tried to find a nice shallow bonsai pot for it but there was none to be had at Home Depot. Maybe its not time yet for a shallow pot? So we lifted it up and since it had been sitting in the previous pot on its side, there is quite a lot of roots now exposed. Will they fall off after a while?

This is the super tall adenium repotted. I am trying to plan a strategy for it. Maybe have it outside in the full sun for 2 hrs/day this week and then prune it to where I have the blue tape? This plant is my Dh's baby and I'm so afraid of ruining it. The leaves are nice and green & glossy so it seems like a shame but I know its the best in the long run.

Thoughts?

    Bookmark   July 7, 2010 at 9:34AM
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Kyle127

Smoochas, did you ever clip your adenium at the blue tape? How did it turn out two years later?

    Bookmark   December 11, 2012 at 1:19AM
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