What soil?

justin1012454875October 22, 2009

I was wondering what kind of soil mix I should use for my S. purpurea ssp. venosa - Purple Pitcher either

> This is the standard soil mix for most carnivorous plants. Use it with Sarracenia, Drosera and flytraps. Contains equal parts of peat moss and perlite.

OR!

> This particular mix contains 1 part bark and 1 part dried sphagnum moss. Can be used with most tropical pitcher plants, such as Nepenthes and Heliamphora.

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justin1012454875

Just another question since I live in Florida and it's getting into the winter months would it be a good time to buy CP plants? Or wait and if I do buy some now whats the best way to get rain watter (Since it wont rain to much in these months) or can I use Zephrhills water? I belive it has no minerals I'll post the ingredents in it later!

    Bookmark   October 22, 2009 at 10:44AM
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terrestrial_man(9)

If the plants you buy are already in pots then anytime is ok to purchase. But if you have to repot then I would wait until spring or order now and have them shipped in April or May.
You should be collecting rainwater all year long if you do not intend to purchase distilled or use a r/o system. You can easily construct a basic water collector using heavy plastic sheeting or a tarp and set up to drain into a rain barrel that has a tap. Below is a link to the type of rain barrel I use but do not set it on rocks instead use concrete blocks with thick concrete pavers. (will provide image if desired)
Do not use any other type of water other than distilled or r/o water. Rain water can be harmful as it all depends on what it is draining off of. Best is that that drains off of plastic sheeting or fiberglass panels or glass panels.

Here is a link that might be useful: I like this rain barrel

    Bookmark   October 22, 2009 at 3:07PM
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tommyr_gw

I use a 50/50 mix of perlite and Peat moss. Rainwater only, if no rain water distilled. We got TONS of rain this year so they got nothing but rain!

    Bookmark   October 22, 2009 at 3:34PM
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buckcity(08)

Soil-from The Savage Garden by Peter D'Amato,

"Peat moss is probably the most important soil ingredient for most CPs. It must always be sphagnmu peat moss...it should then be mixed with water until it resembles a soft, wet mud...All sand used in soil recipes for carnivorous plants should be sand that has been well washed...washed "play sand" meant for use in children's sandboxes is also good."

Personally I only use half sand and half peat with great results. I only use rain water if at all possible.

Glad you're sticking with it. Many fellow hobbyists, like myself, learned to grow carnivorous plants the hard way-through trial and error and have suffered failures along the way -but the reward is too great not to try!

    Bookmark   October 22, 2009 at 8:55PM
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buckcity(08)
    Bookmark   October 22, 2009 at 10:05PM
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taz6122(N.W. AR.6b)

You answered your own question lol. The S. stands for Sarracenia.

    Bookmark   October 23, 2009 at 9:53PM
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petiolaris(Neutral)

Personally, I think LFS is the best overall soil medium.

    Bookmark   October 24, 2009 at 10:26AM
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tommyr_gw

LSF is indeed a fine medium! I do use it for most of my orchids and been experimenting with it with my d. Adelea leaf cuttings. Neps seem to like it too. I sometimes work some perlite in with it.

    Bookmark   October 24, 2009 at 7:34PM
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buckcity(08)

Long-Fibered Sphagnum Moss, in case someone was wondering.

I like it too but as a live companion more than soil. Even considering buying a red-fibered variety.

Do grow two of my orchids in LFS but most in bark.

Maybe I will experiment with sphagnum early spring when I repot some of my sarracenias-I will think about it.

    Bookmark   October 24, 2009 at 8:44PM
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petiolaris(Neutral)

There seems to be two commercially available brands out there. There's something being sold as long fibered sphagnum, by Mosser Lee. It isn't the best quality, with twigs of grasses mixed in. Then there's something called orchid moss. It's a little more expensive, but it's the real deal. Lowes carries it.

    Bookmark   October 25, 2009 at 8:29AM
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tommyr_gw

I buy the Mosser stuff, I'll look for the orchid moss. Thanks!

    Bookmark   October 25, 2009 at 10:52AM
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buckcity(08)

Greenhouse Pics:

I know this doesn't really pertain to anything; just thought I would share.

    Bookmark   October 25, 2009 at 2:50PM
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taz6122(N.W. AR.6b)

I don't use LFS as a medium because it's too hard to separate the roots of the plants from the LFS if you ever need to and also because roots and bulbs tend to rot in it for many growers. I only use LFS to store dormant rhizomes and to cover drain holes in pots so the medium doesn't wash out.

    Bookmark   October 25, 2009 at 3:05PM
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petiolaris(Neutral)

Buckcity: I return the compliment. You're Sarracenias look great!

Taz: Things are back to normal; that is, I disagree with your assessment of LFS.

For me, it's perlite that I find to be a nuisance.

    Bookmark   October 25, 2009 at 3:46PM
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taz6122(N.W. AR.6b)

If I could find a local source of #2 silica sand I wouldn't use perlite either however the only problem I have with it is the algae growth.

    Bookmark   October 25, 2009 at 4:41PM
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petiolaris(Neutral)

How about that floating to the top quality? A pool supply store would have acceptable sand. The play sand at Home Depot and the like, rinsed well, is also good.

    Bookmark   October 25, 2009 at 6:17PM
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tommyr_gw

Buck I hate you, you have a greenhouse!

;)

Great pics!

    Bookmark   October 25, 2009 at 7:40PM
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buckcity(08)

LOL. Yeah but it's already too full and winter is coming.

    Bookmark   October 25, 2009 at 8:03PM
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