Choosing a Kumquat.

raisefire(Zone 8)January 22, 2012

I'm looking at purchasing a kumquat to add to my collection of citrus. I've never tried a kumquat before but have read they can be very delicious. I've looked around at local nursurys and none have or can get any. I searched the web and have found a few but would like some advise before purchasing. I live in tx so I'm kinna limited on what I can get.

Nagami

Meiwa Sweet

Changshou

What do y'all think of these and which one y'all would prefer?

If you know any other kumquats that I can have shipped in tx and and would recommend that would be great.

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musaboru(Inland Calif.)

I've never had Changshou, so I cant comment on that variety.

Meiwa is more palatable than Nagami in my opinion. Meiwa is still somewhat tart (to me anyways), but Nagami is just too tart to enjoy fresh; I think it's almost like eating a lemon but with a sweet rind.

If you can find a seedless variety, consider putting priority on that aspect. Most of my Nagami fruits had like 3 seeds. Meiwa usually has less seeds but 1 seed is still too much for such a small fruit. The seeds are about the same size as other citrus fruit seeds.

    Bookmark   January 22, 2012 at 2:40PM
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mksmth zone 6b Tulsa Oklahoma(6b)

Im pretty sure you'll have a hard time shipping one into texas

Mike

    Bookmark   January 22, 2012 at 5:01PM
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hoosierquilt USDA 10A Sunset 23 Vista CA

Raisefire, I prefer Meiwa, much sweeter than the other two varieties you've mentioned. And you'll have to find a citrus grower in your state, as Texas is a quarantined state. However, there are some good online sources in the state of Texas, so you should be able to find a nice Kumquat from an online Texas source I would think.

Patty S.

    Bookmark   January 23, 2012 at 12:44AM
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melikeeatplants

The first time I tried Nagami, I wanted to spit it out. The first time I tried Meiwa, I knew I had to go get it and plant it in my yard. Never had Changshou

    Bookmark   January 23, 2012 at 12:39PM
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Karly30

For fresh eating, a Meiwa. I've only had one ripe fruit from my Fukushu which I believe is the same as Changshou. It actually tasted like a giant Meiwa.

    Bookmark   January 23, 2012 at 4:35PM
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tantanman(z9Tx)

I like the plain Meiwa. The supposed Chanshou's floating around are mostly hybrids with some mandarine and have a fair tasting shin but they are not so good inside. They are small plum sized.

    Bookmark   January 23, 2012 at 10:36PM
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raisefire(Zone 8)

Thanks everyone. Ive located some just south of where I'm at and I would have to get one next time I'm down there. From what I've gathered, Meiwa seems to be the favor and Ill be looking out for it. Thanks again.

    Bookmark   January 24, 2012 at 11:53AM
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raisefire(Zone 8)

I just got me my Meiwa. My brother picked it up for me when he was on his way up to visit. The tree was in decent shape except that it looks to have some salt burn on it and three 1ft branches were coming from the rootstock which appears to be trifoliate. I already pruned the rootstock off and cleaned out the pot since it had about 2in of decomposing leaves in it. All in all my brother got me a good one even though he knows nothing about plants in general. Best part of all it has 3 kumquats on it that are just about ripe!!

    Bookmark   February 20, 2012 at 9:03AM
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hoosierquilt USDA 10A Sunset 23 Vista CA

Beautiful little tree! Well done, and enjoy your Meiwa. They are nice and sweet, and I really think the best of all the kumquats for eating out of hand. Now, if we can just come up with a seedless variety, like the Nordmann Seedless Nagami, then you've got the perfect kumquat.

Patty S.

    Bookmark   February 20, 2012 at 11:17AM
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raisefire(Zone 8)

Thank you Patty. Well according to the tag it claims to be seedless but I'm skeptical. Through my research Meiwa have seeds but very little. I guess it just enough to brand it seedless. Just have to wait until I get a hold of one.

    Bookmark   February 20, 2012 at 1:47PM
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hoosierquilt USDA 10A Sunset 23 Vista CA

Hmm, I think that's a stretch to call a Meiwa "seedless". I'd say they have less seeds than many other kumquat varieties (except Nordmann Seedless Nagami of course, as they really are about 99.9% seedless). But, they still have seeds. Here are my Meiwa cut in half, so you can see mine are pretty full of seeds:

Hopefully your little tree will be less seedy than mine :-) They're still quite yummy, even though I have to do a fair amount of spitting, lol!!

Patty S.

    Bookmark   February 20, 2012 at 3:27PM
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musaboru(Inland Calif.)

Nice selection.
IIRC some citrus varieties are irradiated to produce seedless mutations. Perhaps this was done to Meiwa also to produce a seedless version. But of course the world isn't exactly perfect to our expectations and a seedless citrus still means there will be a few seeds every now and then.

    Bookmark   February 22, 2012 at 6:24PM
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raisefire(Zone 8)

Well I can report that I did bite into one to day and it did not have any seeds in it. Although it did still have some green on the rind and had some bitterness to it I still enjoyed my first kumquat. I think I'll let the others stay on for a bit longer before I harvest those.

    Bookmark   February 22, 2012 at 9:18PM
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mrtexas(9a)

There is a seedless meiwa x nagami floating around Houston. I have one. However it is extremely late. I saw a full size tree in March in Rosenburg and all the kumquats were still green. Seedless but green. Not for me.

Here is a link that might be useful: mrtexas

    Bookmark   February 24, 2012 at 10:22PM
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strudeldog_gw

Is the "Centennial Variegated Kumquat" more ornamental than edible. I had my first fruit from it and it was very dry and what I would call pithy. I love my Meiwa

    Bookmark   February 25, 2012 at 9:10PM
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tantanman(z9Tx)

Strudeldog:

Many young citrus trees produce pithy fruit. Underwatering makes some mandarins pithy.

Citrus is commercially "seedless" if it has fruit averaging something like four to six seeds per fruit, or less.

Larry

    Bookmark   February 28, 2012 at 12:27AM
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raisefire(Zone 8)

Just wanted to give an update on my tree. I finally bought me a house and I planted it inground late last year. It survived the winter unprotected and its growing quite nicely except it hasn't held on to any fruit yet. It constantly blooms and has flushed 4 times this year. Thanks for all you guys do on here!!

Taken around march this year. Shows signs of chlorosis but expected.

Taken yesterday.

    Bookmark   September 3, 2013 at 11:02PM
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copingwithclay

Congrats on your Meiwa. I have 3 old trees that have the typical seed content. Eventually , your tree will vastly outgrow the small corner that you planted it in. Replanting it in winter to a spot 2-3 feet further out will be appreciated in the future when the leaves and twigs are not all tangled up in the fence. I just ate a Changshou that was 95% ripe and enjoyed it, despite the 8 seeds. It was twice the size of most Meiwa fruit. Nibble and spit seeds. Sweet/tart. Great aftertaste. Regretfully, it is grafted to a Volka r/s, which is NOT cold tolerant. Bad choice. A Thomasville Citrangequat r/s would have been both compatible and cold tolerant.

    Bookmark   October 27, 2013 at 8:14AM
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JCitrus

Bump. Is there such a thing as seedless Miewa? trying to decide on a few new additions to my yard and a seedless Miewa sound like just what I want. Thanks!!

    Bookmark   July 1, 2014 at 1:17PM
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hoosierquilt USDA 10A Sunset 23 Vista CA

Yes, Nordmann Seedless. It is not nearly as good a Meiwa, and there is no seedless Meiwa that I am aware of.

Patty S.

    Bookmark   July 1, 2014 at 6:14PM
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RyanLo(NC 7B)

I think they are allowed to consider a fruit seedless if it has something like an average of 5 or less seeds per fruit. - not sure the exact number. Unfortunately they don't consider the size of the fruit in this. 5 seeds in a grapefruit is much different then 5 in a kumquat. it should be seeds per volume of fruit that would determine the seedless label.

    Bookmark   July 2, 2014 at 9:40AM
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Steve, Micro (6B ground, 5B roof)

I have a seed grown Meiwa tree that is both seedless and Meiwa-less

Steve

    Bookmark   July 2, 2014 at 10:08PM
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hoosierquilt USDA 10A Sunset 23 Vista CA

Correction - no Seedless Meiwa in California that I am aware of :-) I'd love to have that, though. It's the only kumquat I can stand to eat.

Patty S.

    Bookmark   July 3, 2014 at 10:49PM
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Fascist_Nation(9b)

6 seeds or less per fruit (as opposed to segment) = seedless in citrus...and as you said they weren't thinking of kumquats when they made that rule.

I too vote Meiwa, and mine have 2-5 seeds per fruit.

    Bookmark   July 5, 2014 at 1:31AM
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Dave in NoVA • 7a • Northern VA

I have a Centennial in a pot. Fruit ripe throughout the winter. They tasted the best in January-February. Really sweet! Not seedless, but tasty. I think I've read Centennial might be a hybrid, so possibly not as hardy (?).

    Bookmark   July 7, 2014 at 2:48PM
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CAB2255

I would like to locate a grower for the Centennial Variegated Kumquat for purchase in Texas. I had one for many years and lost it last winter.

    Bookmark   December 28, 2014 at 7:55PM
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evdesert 9B Indio, CA

Four winds has them in stock. If you order it tonight they'll have it to you by New Years eve.

Here is a link that might be useful: Centennial kumquat var.

    Bookmark   December 28, 2014 at 9:29PM
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pip313

No shipping to texas

    Bookmark   December 29, 2014 at 8:36AM
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