Do you know of clematis fertilizer recipe by John Perez

janepa(Z5-6 PA)May 9, 2010

Is this for real? I was doing a search on butterfly bushes and there was an item at the bottom about a great fertilizer for clematis. Of course, when I checked it out there was a big 'ad' to buy this guys 'book' by downloading it for only $19.99 instead of the $80.-$90. if you buy by May 9. Have you ever heard of him or downloaded his product?

Thank you. Jane

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janetpetiole(4b)

It's a scam. You will get a recipe for a homemade fertilizer that has been widely available for years.

    Bookmark   May 9, 2010 at 8:46AM
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janepa(Z5-6 PA)

Thank you. I thought it might be a scam. My clematis are doing fine, but I thought it would not hurt to see if anyone tried this recipe.
Jane

    Bookmark   May 9, 2010 at 9:10AM
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janetpetiole(4b)

I ran across someone on the internet who ordered the recipe. If I find it I'll post it so you can at least see what it is.

    Bookmark   May 9, 2010 at 9:43AM
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janetpetiole(4b)

This is close to the recipe of not the exact one.

1 can beer
1 cup epsom salt
1/2 cup ammonia
2 cups water

Mix together and add 1/2 oz to 1 gallon of water, feed every 2 weeks.

    Bookmark   May 9, 2010 at 9:56AM
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unprofessional(5)

The only thing secret about it is that it's weak enough that it's near impossible to kill your clems with it, so that when the plants keep growing like they normally do, people think it's their "secret" mix working well.

Stick to rose/tomato fert, if you really feel the need to fertilize.

    Bookmark   May 9, 2010 at 12:09PM
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jerry0(7 NC Triad)

I think that epson salts is the only thing needed. It is also recommended for roses. It contains sulpher and magnesium. A tablespoon once or twice a year will keep the magnesium in the soil up. It's especially good for roses but I use it on everything at least once a year. Use sparingly.

    Bookmark   September 7, 2010 at 10:50AM
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midway(7B)

I don't know about clematis but I ordered his book on tomatoes. It is not a book, it is four pages with a few (very few) recipes. Worthless.
Patsey

    Bookmark   September 10, 2010 at 8:49AM
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mazjs_dodo_com_au

I put in an order but haven't received anything except a receipt. How do I get the download? I think I've been had.

    Bookmark   January 28, 2011 at 8:07PM
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jeanne_texas(Z 8B TX)

It's a scam and the only secret is he stole it from Jerry Baker..LOL..the trick is Alfalfa Tea and Rose or Tomato Fertilizer..and hard pruning..good luck and happy Spring..I am so excited..come on Spring...

    Bookmark   February 1, 2011 at 10:56AM
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cathompson03_gmail_com

I really appreciate your posts about Mr Perez's tomato growing secrets. I am amazed to see that it contains ammonia. Is ammonia safe for human consumption or as a fertilizer? I only remember the strong and stifling odor from childhood and couldn't believe it could be used in the garden. Epsom salt is used to help cabbages head. I learned this from my gardening book by Dick Raymond. He advises that as soon as you notice your cabbages beginning to make heads, apply a side dressing of Epsom Salt for each plant. I believe it is 1 tablespoon per plant. If anyone is interest, I will be happy to look it up and post the information. Thank you all for preventing me from being scammed again.

    Bookmark   April 27, 2011 at 1:36PM
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cathompson03_gmail_com

I really appreciate your posts about Mr Perez's tomato growing secrets. I am amazed to see that it contains ammonia. Is ammonia safe for human consumption or as a fertilizer? I only remember the strong and stifling odor from childhood and couldn't believe it could be used in the garden. Epsom salt is used to help cabbages head. I learned this from my gardening book by Dick Raymond. He advises that as soon as you notice your cabbages beginning to make heads, apply a side dressing of Epsom Salt for each plant. I believe it is 1 tablespoon per plant. If anyone is interest, I will be happy to look it up and post the information. Thank you all for preventing me from being scammed again.

    Bookmark   April 27, 2011 at 2:13PM
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kentstar(5b, NE Ohio)

Be careful using Epsom salts if your soil is already high in magnesium. A soil test is the best way to know first hand.

    Bookmark   April 27, 2011 at 2:59PM
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sandyl(Zone 6B -7)

OMG Alfalfa Tea stinks to high heaven, smells like S*** in a bucket. I added two cups of alfalfa feed pellets to a five gal bucket of water and covered the bucket and left it to WORK! That bucket of crap stunk up my whole storage shed. I got it on my hand and thought I was going to never get it off and almost throwed up until I got it off, had to use ammonia to get it off, washed my hands in dish soap and hair conditioner and several other things to help get it off my hands. . My clematis's better like it........I don't know if I'll be using it very offten due to the smell...But I know I'll use rubber gloves next time for sure. Sandy

    Bookmark   May 6, 2011 at 10:00AM
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buyorsell888(Zone 8 Portland OR)

You don't have to make "tea" to use alfalfa. You can just toss the pellets like I do.

    Bookmark   May 6, 2011 at 11:20AM
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bob414(USDA 9, Sunset 15)

I use it without making tea also. Each spring when I prune I work rose fertilizer and alfalfa pellets into the ground around each rose and clematis.

    Bookmark   May 6, 2011 at 4:53PM
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thnkfl4plntz(7)

Do you get alfalfa pellets at a feed store like Tractor Supply or a place that sells horse feed? Thanks, Joel

    Bookmark   June 21, 2011 at 6:57PM
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opheliathornvt zone 5

That's where I get them. You have to be sure they don't add salt to the pellets.

    Bookmark   June 22, 2011 at 8:36AM
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buyorsell888(Zone 8 Portland OR)

Yes, the best place to buy alfalfa pellets is a horse feed store.

I just toss handfuls at the plants around the yard. I don't bury them nor scratch them in. Easy. Cheap. Seems to be working too, tons more buds on my daylilies, Clematis have more vines. I started last summer.

Rabbit/guinea pig pellets have additives and aren't pure alfalfa. Also a lot more expensive per volumn.

    Bookmark   June 22, 2011 at 10:44AM
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Ruth_MI(z5MI)

How often do you spread the alfalfa pellets? I put alfalfa meal on my clematis and other plants in April, and was thinking I'd do another application. Maybe I'll try pellets this time. I'm thinking they'd be more of a time-release option, plus have less dust.

    Bookmark   June 22, 2011 at 11:01AM
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ditas

In search of Alfalfa pellets last Spring, the only thing available are bails of alfalfa ~ I ended up using Tomato Tone 'til I find some.

Meantime, I took a visiting Granddau to a horse farm for some classes this summer & found they fed their horses alfalfa mix ~ they gave me a couple of small bails for a few $$. After blooming done, pruned ~ soaked & clipped the smallish bail & surrounded the base of each of my clems. Is this how it is done if using raw/dried alfalfa & not pellets?

Your thoughts please? TIA

    Bookmark   July 11, 2012 at 5:41PM
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buyorsell888(Zone 8 Portland OR)

Every feed store I've ever been to has bagged alfalfa pellets. Forty pound bags about ten bucks.

Alfalfa hay can have weed seeds, I would not use it in my garden. There is also a lot of chaff and stem.

    Bookmark   July 11, 2012 at 7:17PM
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luvmyclematis

Try TSC (Tractor Supply), a Farm Fleet or a local Farmer's Co-op. Got ours at TSC, $10 or so, without salt. So easy to scatter around clems. We do use alfalfa meal in the hole whenever we plant anything. Got it at the local F. Co-op.

    Bookmark   July 11, 2012 at 11:43PM
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ditas

Uh-oh ... I should have posted my question before doing what I did ~ now I'll have another headache w/ all weeds that might sprout around my Clemmies ~ sigh!!

    Bookmark   July 12, 2012 at 5:27PM
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