People who grow 2s as 3s

redsox_gwMay 6, 2010

I read on here that an experienced rose grower prunes her 2s as if they were 3s when grown as a companion to a rose. How would a prune 2 really flower well if it only blooms on old wood?

Is this something other people do? I prune my new 2s like 3s because I read somewhere that it is a good idea when they are young.

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buyorsell888(Zone 8 Portland OR)

When you have a long growing season, what the IIs consider "old wood" has time to develop.

It is a very good idea to prune IIs as IIIs when they are young.

    Bookmark   May 6, 2010 at 4:59PM
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Carrie B

I have mostly threes in my garden, with (I think) only two twos: Dawn & The President. Because my garden is very small, my clematis are all crammed (err, grown) together on a few adjoining trellises. For ease of pruning, I just prune all my clematis (with the exception of two type 1's on a separate trellis) back hard each late winter. That way, I don't have to sort out intertwined vines to separate the 2's from the 3's.

My Dawn always blooms very early - but only at the very bottom of the vine on what's left of the old wood post-pruning, and, then, later in the season, it reblooms higher on the new vines. The President is about to open now, up about 6' off the ground on this season's new growth.

    Bookmark   May 8, 2010 at 9:14PM
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unprofessional(5)

I prune all 2s and 3s right down to the ground in the winter, and have had great success doing so. The vines come back more vigorous, and with more basal shoots every year. To me, one of the best parts of pruning this way is it delays blooming on type-2s, so more bloom times line up, which is a more impressive show than it would otherwise be.

    Bookmark   May 9, 2010 at 6:21AM
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redsox_gw

unpro, you don't list a zone. so I can't tell if you live in zone 5 or zone 9. I guess that would make a big difference as my zone, 6, is right about middle.

    Bookmark   May 9, 2010 at 12:36PM
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michael_in_chicago(z5)

In my zone you will get more blooms if type 2's are left unpruned. But there are plenty of years when I need to trim them down for cleanliness; they bloom later (and smaller) but still bloom.

I had Mrs. Cholmondeley for years and treated her as a type 3; she did great that way (except I got tired of the wilting during rainy seasons). Niobe and Piilu die down to the ground each winter, treating themselves to a type 3 pruning, and they do great as well.

    Bookmark   May 9, 2010 at 7:30PM
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unprofessional(5)

I'm in zone 5 - south central michigan.

    Bookmark   May 11, 2010 at 1:44PM
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