Buyorsell, Here's the Rebar Pyramids

carolfm(z7upstate SC)May 30, 2007

These are the best photo's I could find of it. Very easy, very inexpensive. Hope you can see the details clearly enough.

I have a rose planted on mine and two clematis. All are babies. You can barely see the white blooms peeping over the fence.

Carol

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buyorsell888(Zone 8 Portland OR)

Thank you! LOL I just was searching the rose forums.

What are they held together with at the top? Wire?

    Bookmark   May 30, 2007 at 8:13PM
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carolfm(z7upstate SC)

There is a hose clamp securing them together at the top. The kind of hose clamp you see on car hoses. I have seen photo's of similar rebar structures with short pieces of rebar secured horizontally with wire rebar ties between the vertical pieces. You are welcome and I hope this helps. The search function on the rose forums hasn't been working very well lately.

Carol

    Bookmark   May 30, 2007 at 8:52PM
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nckvilledudes(7a NC)

Wonder how easy it would be to bend that rebar? I know a few years back Jackson Perkins or someone along those lines had a trellis that looked sort of like an umbrella--one solid pole with fingers that radiated out and down. I think maybe Jeanne purchased one. Seems it would be easy to make by hose clamping four or five rebar pieces together and then bending the ends down to look like an umbrella missing the fabric. Just don't know how easy rebar bends.

    Bookmark   May 31, 2007 at 3:30AM
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carolfm(z7upstate SC)

Miguel, yes it can be bent. I have seen photo's of rebar bent into a U shape. The person who had shaped the rebar said it was not difficult. He has used rebar to build all kinds of structures. I have not tried it myself.

Carol

    Bookmark   May 31, 2007 at 5:39AM
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nckvilledudes(7a NC)

Thanks Carol. My experience with rebar has been short 2 foot long pieces or so. Those pieces are very rigid and I can't see how those would easily be bent without a pipe bender. All of my trellises are secured in the ground by beating the rebar into the ground at the legs of the trellis and hose clamping the leg of the trellis to the rebar.

Thanks again!

    Bookmark   May 31, 2007 at 11:15AM
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buford(7 NE GA)

carol, your yard is lovely!

    Bookmark   June 1, 2007 at 6:17PM
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carolfm(z7upstate SC)

Buford, thank you. Between the thrips and PM it is a bit of a mess right now.

Miguel,I secure all of my trellises, obelisks, everything with rebar and it never moves a fraction. I love rebar. I would love to see what kind of structures you can come up with using rebar since you are the master of innovative structures :-)

Carol

    Bookmark   June 1, 2007 at 6:50PM
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persiancat_gardener(z8 O’burg, scarolina)

Oh Boy, it's back to lowes I go. Love this idea. Must make one. Thanks so much

    Bookmark   June 1, 2007 at 7:18PM
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nckvilledudes(7a NC)

Carol, at this stage of this horrible season as far as rain goes, I am thinking of anything but more structures to build for clematis because I need more to water like I need a hole in the head. LOL I am installing another drip irrigation system though that should help cut down on the watering of my existing clematis.

    Bookmark   June 2, 2007 at 1:26AM
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carolfm(z7upstate SC)

Miguel, I was really hoping we would get some rain from this tropical storm but it is going to miss us completely. You too? It is really, really bad here right now! Grass is even turning brown. I wish we had an irrigation system!

Carol

    Bookmark   June 2, 2007 at 7:23AM
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buford(7 NE GA)

We may get something from Barry. I'm watching the radar carefully. It's a bit overcast this AM, which at least helps because the sun is not frying everything. Of course, I was hoping for some sun because I'm painting my bathroom on the east side of the house and had to take out the light yesterday. You can't win, can you!

Anyway, I am watering because today is my watering day and I can't chance that we will get any rain.

    Bookmark   June 2, 2007 at 8:35AM
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nckvilledudes(7a NC)

Carol, same here. The grass here is completely brown and it looks like middle August. I can't imagine what it is going to look like when it actually is August. As for whether we will get any rain or not, I am just taking a wait and see attitude. The weather guessers have missed calling the weather right here way too often for me to ever believe them!!

Check out the Dripworks website. I have two of the Yard and Garden Kits. I also order extras of the types of drip emitters that I need. I got one system two years ago and have loved it. I just received my second one and am planning on installing it Sunday. Perhaps that will make it rain!! LOL I also have several soaker hoses that do great when you have things jammed close together(see my jam it close together philosophy does have a plus!). The drip system works great to cover things that are spread out.

Here is a link that might be useful: Dripworks

    Bookmark   June 2, 2007 at 12:06PM
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remontant(z6B TN)

Carol, I'm thinking of trying one for Buff Beauty. He's already smashed a cedar arbor from Lowe's (I thought I heard a laugh when it collapsed). How's this working out for you? Do you have it sunk in concrete?

    Bookmark   May 18, 2008 at 2:03PM
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buyorsell888(Zone 8 Portland OR)

I really need to make DH made me a couple of these. I have some commercial obelisks but don't want everything to be the same.

Thanks for bringing this back up.

    Bookmark   May 18, 2008 at 8:33PM
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tracyvine(6 NE Ohio)

Nckvilledudes, rebar is pretty heavy duty stuff. We have tons of it around here with hubby being a bricklayer and doing some concrete work here and there. It won't bend too easily. I would recommend getting a pipe bender and maybe heating up the rebar with a blow torch a bit to help it bend a little easier if it acts too stubborn.

Carol, your garden is beautiful! I thing your pyramid is ingenious! That clamp is perfect for securing them together. Thank you for showing it to us!

Tracy

    Bookmark   May 19, 2008 at 1:35AM
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rjlinva

Miguel,

I've been using rebar a lot lately...I've had the best luck going to the local steel company with a diagram of what I want and having them bend it "professional" into arches with a 5ft diameter on a 20 ft piece of rebar. I have bent some myself, but I'm not so happy with it. Also, pounding a 5 ft piece of pipe into the ground 2 ft deep and sliding the rebar into it seems more secure than just driving the rebar directly into the ground...ask me how I know...

I can talk ad nauseam about rebar.

robert

    Bookmark   May 19, 2008 at 6:20AM
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carolfm(z7upstate SC)

Thanks guys, the idea was Robert's! He told me how to do it from start to finish. He is the rebar master ;-)

Reilly, my rebar pyramids are not set in concrete. They are driven into my pure clay soil and clamped at the top and they don't budge! We had a terrible wind storm last week that blew a huge rose off the arbor, broke numerous rose canes, blew clematis off the trellises, blew a climber out of a tree, and the rebar and the rose/clematis on it were fine. Those tubular steel obelisks that you can buy don't work very well either. RdO broke one in half in just two years. The rebar works great.

Carol

    Bookmark   May 19, 2008 at 8:46AM
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remontant(z6B TN)

Thanks Carol! That's good to know. You inspired me so I went to Lowe's yesterday. They didn't have any cut rebar between the 3' and the 20' lengths, so I wandered around until I ended up in the fencing section and found three hefty steel posts that are about 6'. Found the hose clamps and got it set up last evening. It seems steady enough even without being buried in concrete, so we'll see. Buff Bully isn't too amused at being trussed up, but I hope he'll straighten up and deal with it in time. ;-D

PS--your garden *is* gorgeous. If yours looked like that in a drought, I can't wait to see it after this year's nice rains!

    Bookmark   May 19, 2008 at 10:29AM
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buyorsell888(Zone 8 Portland OR)

Do you put a Clem on each corner or one in the middle of the pyramid?

Do you have to tie them on?

    Bookmark   May 19, 2008 at 7:19PM
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opheliathornvt zone 5

My husband made me a couple of these last year. I wasn't sure whether the clems would climb without help, so I wound a few strands of fishline around the pyramid, but it's beginning to look like that wasn't necessary. On at least one of them, the clems are grabbing hold by themselves. I think it will be helpful that the rebar has some texture to it, so they won't slide down. I hope, anyway.

    Bookmark   May 20, 2008 at 9:20AM
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nckvilledudes(7a NC)

Thanks for the advice Tracy and Robert. I knew that there had to be a way to do it, but just didn't know who to try to get to do it. Robert, would love to see pictures of your creations. I can't picture in my mind what you are talking about with your 20ft. rebar bent with a 5 ft. diameter.

Just a few weeks ago on Victory Garden (might have been a repeat), they made a huge tuteur out of rebar similar to what they used to sell at Smith and Hawken that looked like a huge haystack. I almost bought one several years ago and wish that I had. I wondered how easy it would be to actually construct it because they made it look too easy.

Carol, it goes without saying that your garden picture last year looked smashing. Post more pictures this year please.

    Bookmark   May 20, 2008 at 11:35AM
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tracyvine(6 NE Ohio)

Miguel, I think it would be a high arch. If both end points are only 5 feet away from each other then over a 20 span of iron it should be approximately 5-6 feet tall depending how deep they are stuck in the ground.

Robert, I would love to see pictures too. Do you have them in different parts of the garden or do you have them covering a walkway. My mind is buzzing with possibilities. Please show us! lol!

    Bookmark   May 20, 2008 at 9:45PM
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