clematis and indian hawthorne

sara82lee(8a - SE Va)May 10, 2013

I saw a clematis H.F. Young at my local big box store a few weeks ago and have been thinking about it ever since... So today I broke down and bought one. My hesitation to buy it before was that I don't know if I actually have a place to put it, and until I brought it home with me I still wasn't sure!

Then I thought about my white indian hawthorne. It's not my favorite plant, kind of plain-jane, but its okay. It's well established and the stems are very woody. I have to cut it back hard every year to keep it in check. After I cut it back its about 4.5 ft tall. Can I put my new clematis on it? Will that affect my ability to cut the indian hawthorne back?

Thanks! Clematis newbie, Sara

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NHBabs(4b-5aNH)

HF Young is a type 2 prune clematis, so that it only gets a relatively light pruning after its spring bloom. I think it would be difficult to prune the hawthorne around the HF Young vines. It would be better to put a type 3 (hard prune) clematis on the hawthorne since it gets cut back hard during the winter and put HF Young somewhere else. It is a gorgeous clematis, worth finding a spot to plant it.

On the other hand, mine often gets frozen back to the snow line, so if needed, I guess you could treat it as a type 3 and prune it back when you prune the hawthorne. You can see what others from warmer zones think about that. Here is my HF Young in a year when it started its growing season at only about 1 1/2 feet.
From June 5, 2012

    Bookmark   May 10, 2013 at 11:08PM
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gardengal48

Taking babs' lead, you CAN hard prune the type 2 vines, especially in zone 8. All it does is delay the bloom season a bit but you will still get a good flower display. I see no reason not to attempt to grow the clematis on the hawthorn if you like.

    Bookmark   May 11, 2013 at 1:11PM
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buyorsell888(Zone 8 Portland OR)

I prune all of my type 2s as 3s pretty much every year...

It doesn't hurt them and they can't read books to know what group they are in anyway ;)

    Bookmark   May 12, 2013 at 2:48PM
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sara82lee(8a - SE Va)

Okay, its decided then. In the ground and appears happy. Only about six inches high, but it must grow fast! What a beautiful picture!

Thanks everyone for your input.

    Bookmark   May 12, 2013 at 5:06PM
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sara82lee(8a - SE Va)

Okay, its decided then. In the ground and appears happy. Only about six inches high, but it must grow fast! What a beautiful picture!

Thanks everyone for your input.

    Bookmark   May 12, 2013 at 5:19PM
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sara82lee(8a - SE Va)

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This post was edited by sara82lee on Sun, May 12, 13 at 19:48

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