Categorization of Brugs and Daturas

dirtygardener73(9a)November 6, 2009

Are Brugmansia and Datura still separate genuses (?) of the Solonaceae family? I'm finding conflicting sources; one says datura is now under brugmansia, but the plant files here say differently. Wikipedia has them as different genuses but you can't trust them always.

TIA

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givelittle_getlots(Zone 8 TX)

They USED to be in the same genuses...but they do not fall into the same any longer.

A Dat is a Dat and that's Dat.

A brug is a brug and thats in a book. If it is a updated one.

Of course some folks still try to sell or tell you that a Datura is the same as a Brug.

Any reason why you ask?
Or just wanted to clarify?

Lucy

    Bookmark   November 6, 2009 at 1:08PM
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chena(z8 Texas)

Good info Lucy!!

Kylie

    Bookmark   November 6, 2009 at 2:04PM
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mantorvillain(z4bMN Dodge)

"A Dat is a Dat and that's Dat"?
LOL - nice one Lucy
Will

    Bookmark   November 6, 2009 at 6:38PM
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givelittle_getlots(Zone 8 TX)

TIA just trying to be a bit funny but NOT making a joke on YOU! Hope you know that!!!

This is my 2nd season growing both intensely and Especially on Dats that came back from the ground from last year it was amazing to see the difference in them this year.

Same with the brugs.

Will sometimes my English REALLY sucks lol

Lucy

    Bookmark   November 6, 2009 at 6:55PM
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haase(10 CA)

Lucy, your English is great! There are people born in an English speaking country that don't do half as good as you!!!
Ingrid.

    Bookmark   November 8, 2009 at 5:52PM
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grrrnthumb(z8 WA)

As the ICRA Registrar for both of these genera, I can confirm that yes, they are distinct & separate. Below is a link to probably the most authoritative source possible; its the genera list at the International Society for Horticultural Science, where both are listed separately.
Also, all current publications list them separately. Two good ones for reference are "Brugmansia and Datura" by Ulrike & Hans-Georg Preissel, and "The European Garden Flora" by Stuart Max Walters and J. Cullen.
... although I think I like Lucy's explanation better. ;)
- Tom Hulse

Here is a link that might be useful: Taxonomic Listing of genera and families

    Bookmark   November 9, 2009 at 4:42AM
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givelittle_getlots(Zone 8 TX)

Tom lol I actually love it when you jump in and always guide us to the best info possible :-)
thank you so much.

Lucy

    Bookmark   November 9, 2009 at 7:45AM
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