Dave's excellent brooming adventure

glaciers_end(8WA)January 27, 2012

Look where I am today

and look what's still here

I had to stop by the local ranch store to buy a tool to take cuttings. Tomorrow I snip some scions and get them grafted Sunday.

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whaas_5a(5A SE WI)

Look at all the buds on that thing!

    Bookmark   January 27, 2012 at 7:56PM
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tsugajunkie z5 SE WI

You made it, that's great.

Gonna take a dandy to beat 'er!

Naming it 'Elko Run'?

tj

    Bookmark   January 27, 2012 at 10:15PM
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sluice

Nice!

Don't go too crazy in Elko tonight, and good luck tomorrow!

    Bookmark   January 27, 2012 at 11:08PM
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gardener365(5b Illinois USA)

Marv!

Tro me one scion!

Dax

    Bookmark   January 28, 2012 at 7:51AM
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coniferjoy(z7 The Netherlands)

Nice Job Dave!

    Bookmark   January 28, 2012 at 8:06AM
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botann(z8 SEof Seattle)

Nice job is right. Elko is not on exactly on the main line. How did you get there? Drive?
Mike

    Bookmark   January 28, 2012 at 12:27PM
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Cher(6 SW OH)

That is a great looking plant. Congratulations on the wonderful find. I like TJ's name suggestion. :)
Cher

    Bookmark   January 28, 2012 at 2:08PM
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tunilla

Er... Picea engelmannii ? T.

    Bookmark   January 28, 2012 at 2:40PM
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glaciers_end(8WA)

@Botann, no this was a air adventure. I had plenty of frequent flyer miles to get to Salt Lake City for free. The only minor annoyance was to have to abandon the cheap pair of snips at airport security.

@Tunilla, it's actually a very tight Pinus aristata broom.

As for naming it, Shastensis was the guy who first found it, so he should have first dibs on naming it.

~Dave

    Bookmark   January 28, 2012 at 3:52PM
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glaciers_end(8WA)

Now that I'm back home to base camp, here are a couple of more pics from the trip. Here's an overview of the momma tree. They really like climate here. What a lush tree.

The results of yesterday's work. I took a good bunch of scions but left the majority of the broom in case none of the grafts take. I had to work fast. It was like 7 degrees(f) in Elko yesterday morning.

I'm off to get them grafted this morning. There should be plenty of scions left over. Anybody want a few? Shoot me an email and I'll ship'm around Monday or Tuesday.

~Dave

    Bookmark   January 29, 2012 at 10:32AM
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gardener365(5b Illinois USA)

Dave O, emailed ya!

Dax

    Bookmark   January 29, 2012 at 10:49AM
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firefightergardener(7/8)

Cool Dave! I love bristlecone pines but they sure take some babying here in the PNW for them to thrive. Bob Fincham has basically told me that he doesn't really think our climate is viable for them - at least without ideal conditions. I have a few in really fast draining soil but it's just so wet here I think we have to cross our fingers annually.

I'd love a graft of this new beauty in any case. The collector in my is ever optimistic.

We still need to exchange golden-seedling grafts. Maybe you want to visit Coenosium Gardens at some time in March and we can get together for some swaps?

Glad to see you're enjoying the Southwest. Thinking about it more, I think it's something I'd like to do in future Winters. What a relief to get away from the cold and rain for a week or two.

-Will

    Bookmark   January 29, 2012 at 11:56AM
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sluice

Great pic of momma tree - super form!
Looks like some nice juniper in there too!

    Bookmark   January 29, 2012 at 12:17PM
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ladylotus(Z3/4 ND)

Dave, what a beautiful little witches broom. I'm hoping after I get my grafting completed, that I can go out and do some serious scouting for witches brooms. Very nice find.

Thank you for sharing the photos.

    Bookmark   January 29, 2012 at 8:36PM
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glaciers_end(8WA)

Yesterday was results day. I started by gathering up my trusty pole pruner and going after this little guy --
Pseudotsuga menziesii 'DuPont Dynamite'

The neighborhood probably was wondering what I was up to. Here's what I was able to get from the tree. I have lot of these scions left, so let me know if you can grow Pseudotsuga menziesii var. menziesii (the coastal beast). I'll send wood.

I spent yesterday at Coenosium Gardens putting knife to wood. Here's the result of my first attempts at grafting. Bob recommended that I double graft the aristatas, so there wasn't a lot of scion wood left. However a couple of you lucky souls can expect some in the mail.

the menziesiis. Lousy shot, but you get the idea.

I think for my next adventure, I'll head out to the Pacific coast in search of Picea sitchensis and Abies grandis brooms.

~Dave

    Bookmark   January 30, 2012 at 8:30PM
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ladylotus(Z3/4 ND)

Nice job on the grafting there Dave. It looks like you definitely know what you are doing.

    Bookmark   January 30, 2012 at 10:38PM
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coniferjoy(z7 The Netherlands)

Great grafting job Dave!
I hope both brooms will be successful propagated.
Only now we've to wait for a good name for the Pinus aristata broom.

Searching for new Picea sitchensis and Abies grandis brooms would be nice, but it would be much nicer if you go searching for Abies amabilis brooms because till now there are none of this species...
If I'm not wrong, it's in the same area :0)

    Bookmark   January 31, 2012 at 2:13AM
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Cher(6 SW OH)

They look great. For a first attempt they look like you've been doing them for years.
Cher

    Bookmark   January 31, 2012 at 6:10AM
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gardener365(5b Illinois USA)

"bloody excellent" ;-)

Dax

    Bookmark   January 31, 2012 at 8:19AM
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glaciers_end(8WA)

thanks for all the encouraging words, folks. I did 30 grafts without the sacrifice of a single drop of blood.

Since I've sent some scions around, I'm going with TJ's idea and attaching the provisional cultivar name, 'Elko Run.' We'll go with that for now.

@Edwin, an Abies amabilis broom would be an excellent find. However in all my days of tromping around in the woods, I can't say I've ever seen a single tree, not to mention a forest of them. Maybe one of the species guys can chime in and recommend the type of terrain/climate this species likes. . . .

    Bookmark   January 31, 2012 at 9:19AM
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coniferjoy(z7 The Netherlands)

Dave, here's some useful info for your future Abies amabilis witches' broom hunting :0)
You'll see that these aren't far from were you live...

Here is a link that might be useful: Abies amabilis

    Bookmark   January 31, 2012 at 10:20AM
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alley_cat_gw

I found a couple brooms and pictured today.

    Bookmark   January 31, 2012 at 5:28PM
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alley_cat_gw

scroll left to right to see todays broom photos.

    Bookmark   January 31, 2012 at 5:41PM
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sluice

Looks great for a first grafting session, Dave!

And at Coenesium with Bob, how cool is that?!?

Good luck with the Picea sitchensis and Abies grandis hunting.

Alley cat, what kind of brooms are those?

    Bookmark   January 31, 2012 at 11:52PM
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alley_cat_gw

Hey Sluice, I need some help with this one. My knowledge of conifers is limited.Ive never found a broom before and yesterday i found 2 within 10 min. apart. Growing up we just called these scrub pine trees. I would like to know their true name.Im also thinking about sending my monkey up there and getting the small one!

    Bookmark   February 1, 2012 at 7:57AM
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gardener365(5b Illinois USA)

alley

Start a new thread when you get a chance with more photos of the trees and call it Conifer ID so Resin et.al will see it. Cones would be helpful and anything else you can get photos of: bark/upper & lower surface of a shoot/buds/better photos of the trees.

Dax

    Bookmark   February 1, 2012 at 8:35AM
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monkeytreeboy15(Zone 7b/8a)

Dave, where did you get your Pseudotsuga menziesii understock?
Is that var. menziesii or var. glauca?
Thanks

-Sam

    Bookmark   February 3, 2012 at 12:14PM
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glaciers_end(8WA)

Hi Sam,

The scions (momma-tree) is a PsMen. var. menziesii.

I got my Doug-fir understock from Jason at Western Evergreen. Don't know for sure, but I assume that it's var. menziesii. Since that scions aren't going to be hardy to zone 5-6, I didn't see the point of tracking down hardy understock.

    Bookmark   February 3, 2012 at 1:12PM
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monkeytreeboy15(Zone 7b/8a)

Thanks, Dave.
I may check them out.. or I'll go dig some up from my yard.

-Sam

    Bookmark   February 3, 2012 at 2:51PM
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Embothrium(USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA)

If you dig them out of the yard they won't be pot-bound.

    Bookmark   February 3, 2012 at 7:57PM
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