two coniferous stars of the small screen

davidrt28 (zone 7)February 4, 2012

and given Hollywood's insatiable demand for other people's creative properties, probably the big screen too, one day.

Couple thoughts: are they helped along in looking so eccentric? Or does it just happen? The handful of large cedars I've seen in the US have the more uniform appearance of the one to the right. And, cedars have been cultivated for so long in the UK, is it possible that some hybridization has occurred? The variation between these two (never mind the color, it's been enhanced) could be seen in the natural range of the Cedar of Lebanon, but I wonder if the one on the left might be a C. libani X C. deodara or C. libani X C. atlantica cross? There's something about the luxuriousness of the clumps of foliage that is odd looking. The classic English Country House Cedar is thinner and scragglier looking. Maybe this one has just had centuries of composted cow manure dumped at its roots.

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pineresin

Any idea what location it is? The reason they look eccentric is probably due to snow breakage events. Old cedars in the wild are similarly eccentric.

Deodar � Lebanon hybrids have not (as far as I know) been verified, but likely exist; they'd be tricky to determine accurately, and would need DNA analysis for verification.

Resin

    Bookmark   February 4, 2012 at 1:36PM
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Sara Malone Zone 9b

Hampshire, UK (Highclere Castle). It does snow there.

Here is a link that might be useful: Form and Foliage

    Bookmark   February 4, 2012 at 2:26PM
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wisconsitom

Ah Davidrt, I've been eying those ever since me and the Mrs. started watching Downton! Great-looking trees, whatever the ID outcome. The series ain't bad either.

+oM

    Bookmark   February 4, 2012 at 4:46PM
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pineresin

Thanks for the location! Found a higher resolution pic , they look more typically Cedrus libani there.

Resin

    Bookmark   February 4, 2012 at 7:41PM
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gardener365(5b Illinois USA)

Resin's link didn't work for me but maybe this one will:

Dax

Here is a link that might be useful:

    Bookmark   February 5, 2012 at 8:42AM
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pineresin

Dax's doesn't either! But (I hope!!) will.

Resin

    Bookmark   February 5, 2012 at 4:31PM
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pineresin

Odd . . . the GW software strips out part of the URL. Copy and paste this into the browser:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Highclere_Castle_%28April_2011%29_2.jpg

Resin

    Bookmark   February 5, 2012 at 4:33PM
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pineresin

Drat! Still strips it out!

See if this works:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Highclere_Castle_(April_2011)_2.jpg

And experimental :

Resin

    Bookmark   February 5, 2012 at 4:34PM
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pineresin

Success - that last link works

Resin

    Bookmark   February 5, 2012 at 4:35PM
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davidrt28 (zone 7)

Thanks for all the trouble Resin. I still think there's something peculiar looking about the one on the left. They are both beautiful.

    Bookmark   February 5, 2012 at 8:22PM
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smivies

Those two are Cedrus libani and were apparently planted in the mid 18th century from seed collected in Lebanon.
I don't know how accurate the lineage is b/c they have a Bishop Stephen Pococke as the collector but the dear Bishop probably would have been Richard Pococke. He is noted for having spent more time in the first half of the 18th century traveling (a lot at the east end of the Mediterranean) than ministering.

So ~250 years old?

    Bookmark   February 5, 2012 at 9:07PM
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