Cristate leader on Taxodium distichum 'Peve Minaret'

abciximab(7b/8)February 27, 2014

Today while shearing my Taxodium distichum 'Peve Minaret', I noticed the leader had cristate-like growth. Last year, 2-3 lower branches had the same type of growth. How common is this? Also, last year I had a Taxodium distichum 'Falling Water' with the same cristate-like growth in which I removed and grafted. It grafted successfully and hopefully will show the cristate growth this growing season.
Should I graft the cristate growth from the 'Peve Minaret'?

Patrick

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jean001a(Portland OR 7b)

That sort of growth is called fasciation; in other words, cristate. If left to its own devices it might turn out very interesting.

Beyond that, the tree is far too close to the fence.

This post was edited by jean001a on Fri, Feb 28, 14 at 0:49

    Bookmark   February 28, 2014 at 12:47AM
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tsugajunkie z5 SE WI

I'd wait to graft this one until you see what the others you grafted do. Also, since you'd have to top this one, that would give me pause. Now, if some side shoots fasciate again, then I'd have at it.

tj

PS I've heard of shearing a 'Peve Mineret' like that, but never had the nerve to do that. Looks like it works well. How narrow does that keep it when it leafs out?

    Bookmark   February 28, 2014 at 3:55AM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

i would like to see it leafed out.. either last year.. of this year .... if you dont have a current pic

please and thx

ken

    Bookmark   February 28, 2014 at 6:34AM
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abciximab(7b/8)

Jean Thanks for your placement recommendation/critique. It's at least 4 foot away from the 8 foot fence. It was intentionally planted close to the fence because I shear it yearly and it'll never touch the fence. It takes 5 minutes. I have a 20 foot ladder and a 20 foot pole saw so I'll keep it narrow for some time to come.

Taxodium takes shearing/pruning very well. I have several other Taxodium cultivars that I shear too. In early spring, the 'Peve Minaret' looks really unique as leaves push before any new stem growth. Everyone always wants to know what kind of tree it is. I'll try to remember to get some early spring pictures. The following pictures, from last September, are the same 'Peve Minaret' 7 months after shearing last February. It's starting to fill in better every year. It takes several cycles of shearing for it to start being more full. Each sheared branch will push 1-2 new branches.

    Bookmark   February 28, 2014 at 9:48AM
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wannabeGardnr(7 Maryland)

beautiful tree

    Bookmark   February 28, 2014 at 11:03AM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

that is pretty aggressive for Taxodium distichum 'Peve Minaret'

almost as aggressive as my PM ... which was pointed out as not such by someone with a lot of joy .. lol

i like the pruning idea... the weirder the better.. eh??? ... lol

and with the pruning.. who cares what it really is ...

i might have to try this on my PM ... simply because i dont need a Td where it stands ....

ken

    Bookmark   February 28, 2014 at 11:41AM
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abciximab(7b/8)

I apologize. After going to my greenhouse, I realized my weeping cultivar with cristate growth is 'Cascade Falls' instead of 'Falling Water' as previously mentioned. Last year I grafted the abnormal growth and it continued to show in the 1st seasons growth as can be seen on the branch tips in the following pictures. Hopefully it will continue to show this type of growth.


    Bookmark   February 28, 2014 at 1:59PM
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lou_midlothian_tx(z8 DFW, Tx)

I have same thing with 3 of different MC-BC hybrids. It's rather annoying to tell you the truth because I wanted a single dominant central leader. I chopped central leaders on two of them and will find out soon enough if it works or not.

Anyone know why they do that?

    Bookmark   February 28, 2014 at 8:48PM
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tsugajunkie z5 SE WI

Great work, Patrick. Do you fertilizer the PM to get that kind growth each year? Its hard to imagine each of those branches was last year's growth.

tj

    Bookmark   March 3, 2014 at 8:00PM
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j0nd03

Your first pic with foliage looks like a monkey puzzle tree to me. Way cool effect with that pruning!

    Bookmark   March 3, 2014 at 9:22PM
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mikebotann(8a SE of Seattle)

From a distance, it looks like giant marijuana buds to me.
Mike

    Bookmark   March 4, 2014 at 10:35AM
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lou_midlothian_tx(z8 DFW, Tx)

Seeing that I have two BC dwarf "Jim's Little Guy", I'm going to play with one to see if ABC's way will produce similar results for the fun of it. It looks pretty cool!

    Bookmark   March 9, 2014 at 6:41PM
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sluice

The September pics look great!

    Bookmark   March 9, 2014 at 10:27PM
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frank1965(z8 NWLouisiana)

I have a Lindsey's Skyward- would it be a candidate for this? It is almost the same form as PM.

    Bookmark   March 11, 2014 at 12:24PM
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abciximab(7b/8)

I have a small 'Lindsey's Skyward' that I pruned to the trunk in the exact way as above. I did it once to refresh the tree. It might look weird if you shear it for a few years and then allow the high, unreachable top portion of the tree to grow naturally. The tree would be tight and congested at the bottom and more open and loose at the top....not attractive in my opinion. If you plan on yearly shearing, then go for it. It must be dormant when pruning.

    Bookmark   March 11, 2014 at 11:22PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

do you guys want me to start sending out applications for my club: THE WEIRDER THE BETTER club???

and mike.. botan .... why do you know what those buds look like?? ... lol ...

ken

    Bookmark   March 12, 2014 at 10:19AM
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mikebotann(8a SE of Seattle)

On the Internet, Ken!
It's fairly legal here. I don't grow it myself because I'm not sick enough (my wife disagrees) for a medical license to grow it. That's the way I understand it, but haven't checked up on the exact rules. No need to. Besides, I grow trees and shrubs, not perennials. :-)
Mike

    Bookmark   March 12, 2014 at 11:00AM
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abciximab(7b/8)

Here is the same Taxodium 'Peve Minaret' as of May 20, 2014. Less than 3 months ago I completely sheared the tree. It's starting to fill in nicely.

    Bookmark   June 2, 2014 at 12:16PM
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conon(6b, Southern, IN)

Very interesting pruning of your 'Peve Minaret". I've never heard of doing that with a Taxodium. I love it and want to try it when my tree goes dormant this fall/winter. My question is - Will this work on my PM that has never been pruned? Mine is about 20 feet tall and about four feet wide.

Thanks for posting and any advice that you can give.

Conon, southern Indiana,

    Bookmark   June 2, 2014 at 12:59PM
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alley_cat_gw

abciximab, Please keep us posted with progress photos...very interesting.
Looks like yours is in full sun? Possibly going on 9'?

Thanks
Al

    Bookmark   June 2, 2014 at 1:27PM
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unprofessional(5)

Works on larches, too.

    Bookmark   June 2, 2014 at 2:16PM
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tsugajunkie z5 SE WI

Looks good, Patrick. You'll have to keep us posted on the cristate growth as well.

Thanks.

tj

    Bookmark   June 2, 2014 at 8:58PM
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sluice

Looks excellent!

Good to know also about the larches unpro, I might like to try that with an occidentalis.

    Bookmark   June 3, 2014 at 1:50AM
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arktrees(6b NW Arkansas)

abciximab,
Looking good. Your pics from last Sept are awesome. We always appreciate the pics. Thanks again for the tour.

Arktrees

    Bookmark   June 4, 2014 at 9:30AM
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lou_midlothian_tx(z8 DFW, Tx)

Hahaha, Oh wow. Looks pretty funky but I like it!

Interestingly, SFASU arboretum posted a picture of MC-BC hybrid T-502s being pruned to the trunk over the winter and now showing current picture.

Here is a link that might be useful: T-502

    Bookmark   June 4, 2014 at 5:44PM
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