Echeveria ID

bikerdoc5968 Z6 SE MIOctober 11, 2012

I was given several leaves of this Echeveria about this time last year. It had no name and the owner was clueless! This is the plant from one of the leaves as it is today. While you can't see them, there are two flower spikes. In our cool weather, it will be a month or more before they open. Any assistance as to an ID.... Please?


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greenlarry(UK 8/9)

No idea but its fabulous!

    Bookmark   October 11, 2012 at 2:55PM
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wantonamara Z8 CenTex

It looks like E. 'Mauna Loa' , E. Arlie Wright, E. 'Dick's Pink', E. 'Zorro', . They kinda all look similar but my gues is E. ' Dick's Pink'... but that could be because it was taken in similar light situation and at the same time of the year. These things get green and pink depending on the light. But you knew that.

Here is a link that might be useful: Echeveria 'Dicks Pink' .

    Bookmark   October 11, 2012 at 4:36PM
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bikerdoc5968 Z6 SE MI

Thanks, Mara, but all of the plants suggested are much more crinkled than my plant and the leaves have a much different shape. Only the edge of the leaf is crinkled on my plant. One consideration is Echeveria gigantea.

    Bookmark   October 11, 2012 at 4:52PM
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I happened to see that plant;s photo published recently, Howard, in the special issue (Oaxaca) of the CSSA Journal, and that plant has no crinkled edges. Maybe what you have is a cultivar / hybrid. That issue's cover picture had Mammillarias growing out of the bark of a palm tree.

    Bookmark   October 11, 2012 at 5:18PM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

Looks like an Echeveria of the shaviana/gibbiflora hybrid type. There are lots and lots of them. The shaviana contributes the rippled edge, the gibbiflora the heft. Both together seem to have the potential fabulous coloration.

    Bookmark   October 11, 2012 at 6:37PM
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rosemariero6(z10 /ss24 So. Calif.)

Sorry, I'm not at home at the moment, Howard (at urgent care w/son). I'll check my Echeveria book when I get home & see if I can find a match or suggestions for you.

    Bookmark   October 11, 2012 at 7:28PM
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Rosemarie, I hope all turned out well with your son.

    Bookmark   October 11, 2012 at 9:27PM
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paul_(z5 MI)

All that from one leaf in a year? Quite the overachiever that plant. Lovely coloration.

    Bookmark   October 12, 2012 at 3:05PM
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rosemariero6(z10 /ss24 So. Calif.)

Thanks, Sherry. We were hoping it was not broken or cracked ribs. Turns out probably bruised. He'll live.

Howard, from the book, Echeveria Cultivars, your beautiful plants looks closest to 'Harry Butterfield' or perhaps 'Sundancer'. While I can't say it is either of these for sure, as I don't know if they are found in the trade much.

As others have mentioned, it looks like E. gibbiflora, E. gigantea and/or E.shaviana is in the mix. :)

Wonderfully grown, Howard! A beauty to have, even without a name!

    Bookmark   October 12, 2012 at 9:14PM
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Hi Howard,
I agree with Rosemarie.. Harry Butterfield would be my guess too. Others mentioned vastly different forms and colours...P.S.They put the wrong pic in for Sundancer in the E.C. book Sundancer [mine from Dick originally ]mottley mauvy pink. He used gibbiflora and gigantes as parent plants for many of his hybrids

    Bookmark   October 15, 2012 at 7:42PM
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bikerdoc5968 Z6 SE MI

Thanks to both of you. My question is this: If it is HB, the pics I've seen of it have more of a wavy leaf as well as the undulated margins....

    Bookmark   October 15, 2012 at 8:00PM
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bikerdoc5968 Z6 SE MI

OK, not that Echeveria flowers help with the ID but here is one of the spikes from this plant as it appears today (11/10/12). So anyone know a proper name for this big leaf Echeveria??????

    Bookmark   November 10, 2012 at 10:58AM
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rosemariero6(z10 /ss24 So. Calif.)

Great flower shot, Howard! Unfortunately, with most of these hybrid Echeveria, flowers aren't very helpful with their IDs (as you surmised). ;( I'm still thinking it could be 'Harry Butterfield'. The wavy leaves/undulated margins may just be part of its variability (sometimes the plants look very different from season to season). I suppose you'll never know for certain. Wish I could be of more help to you!

    Bookmark   November 14, 2012 at 5:16PM
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