Some more mystery firs, ID wizards needed

firefightergardener(7/8)March 1, 2012

A few of these are probably the same species. Two were acquired from Larry Stanley in 2009 and the other three were acquired via a local nursery in 2010-11.

First, one ID I think I have finally figured out, though it deserves some more expert opinion.

Abies chinsiensis 'Glauca Prostrata'?

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#1. Bought as Abies delavayi var. forrestii

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Now the unknowns. Some are probably delavayi/forestii but possible some others or hybrids here as well. Take your best shot.

#2.

and the same plant(I am nearly sure)

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#3.

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#4.

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#5. Almost Abies koreana?

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Thanks in advance fellas.

-Will

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mmajicmann(5b)

Abies Manicuras 'Necessitas'?

    Bookmark   March 1, 2012 at 8:21PM
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dietzjm

Abies hangus 'Nailis'?

    Bookmark   March 1, 2012 at 9:52PM
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firefightergardener(7/8)

Well, close perhaps fellas but my opinion more like Abies worksharder 'Thenyous'!

    Bookmark   March 1, 2012 at 10:17PM
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mmajicmann(5b)

we kid you cause we have Pinus 'envious'. ;)

    Bookmark   March 1, 2012 at 10:23PM
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firefightergardener(7/8)

Haha, it's not hard to acquire, you just bite your nails and work in the dirt without gloves on.

In all seriousness I sure wish I could finally solve some of these riddle plants.

    Bookmark   March 1, 2012 at 11:25PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

i am pretty sure.. they are all conifers ...

what more do you really need to know ...

the easiest solution.. is to get rid of them.. and solve your problem that way ....

the druids might suggest they are more than an inanimate object.. but then they would roll it up and smoke it ... whats that all about ...

now what i really want to know.. is gin just vodka flavored with juniper berry ??? maybe i should make that a separate post .... probably a potato issue ...

ken

    Bookmark   March 2, 2012 at 8:14AM
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coniferjoy(z7 The Netherlands)

#4 is Abies fargesii 'Headfort'.

    Bookmark   March 2, 2012 at 8:22AM
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brentm

Will-

This are some shots in the dark...

Abies chensiensis 'Prostrata Glauca' not chinsiensis 'Glauca Prostrata' - I haven't seen 'Prostrata' and 'Prostrata Glauca' side by side, but maybe they are one in the same...
#1 does look like Abies delavayi var. forrestii
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#2 Abies koreana
#3 Abies balsamea seedling?
#4 I think is Abies cephalonica 'Meyer's Dwarf' - white buds, good needle retention in interior, and the angle of the needles in the interior.
#5 Abies koreana?

-Brent

    Bookmark   March 2, 2012 at 11:42AM
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clement_2006

All are chinese fir.
Certainly not balsamea,cephalonica ...
chensiensis don't look chensiensis ,
Probably all from delavay group ,except #1.
Clement

    Bookmark   March 2, 2012 at 12:42PM
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brentm

Just took another look.

I rescind by initial #3 ID guess.

Likely delavayi as Clement suggested.

    Bookmark   March 2, 2012 at 2:27PM
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firefightergardener(7/8)

First plant(NOT #1) remains a mystery though I do lean towards Abies chinsiensis 'Prostrata' or 'Glauca Prostrata'. It looks 'similar' to chinsiensis, dark, somewhat pointy needles, but not quite the same either. Inconclusive as far as I can tell and what others think.

#1 *and* #3 are the same plant I think, Abies delavayi var. forrestii.

#2. My research online looks like it may be Abies delavayi 'Nana'(or possibly 'Major Neish'?), which I have seen some photos of(or claiming to be). A compact Abies delavayi basically, though not as dwarf as 'Buchanan'. Thoughts?

#3. Same as #1 probably Abies delavayi var. forrestii...

#4. I concure 100% with Edwin.

#5. The true unknown. Abies delavayi again??

A good mystery and starting perhaps to sort itself out. Thanks for your chiming in guys, I'd be completely guessing without your help.

-Will

    Bookmark   March 2, 2012 at 2:47PM
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firefightergardener(7/8)

Actually, one more adjustment for #2. Check out this link below. Sure looks like...

Abies forrestii var georgei.

-Will

Here is a link that might be useful: Abies georgei

    Bookmark   March 2, 2012 at 3:21PM
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