I have a shady area that I need a smaller (8-10ft) weeping conifer to fill. Can anyone recommend some cultivars that would fill the bill?
Generally I believe
Tsuga candensis 'Sargentii'
Tsuga Mert. 'Thorsons' Weeping'
are considered two of the best.
Both must be staked for height I believe.
Thanks Fire. I'll look those up.
Here's my Sargeant's K4. I've never staked it up, however, it's on a high graft. I prune out the branches that are superceded by the ones above, making a rather thin, uneven edged, umbrella. It's about 40 years old. I got it in a trade about twenty years ago.
I'll agree with "Bluespruce" GW member as I think Tsuga mertensiana 'Blue Star' is one of the best.
The best weeping form is Tsuga heterophylla Thorsens Weeping
I did not read carefully the height requirements I now see.
Tsuga heterophylla not mert.
Tsuga mert. 'Blue Star' is one I'd love to see a picture of.
Thanks everyone! Thorsens is amazing and the closest to what I was looking for. Seargents will probably work if I train/prune it. They're all beautiful. I too would like to see a pic of the 'Blue Star' cultivar that was mentioned.
Some background on Tsuga heterophylla
Tsuga heterophylla occurs in two distinct areas, on the Pacific Coast (SW Alaska to NW California), in zone 7-9, and a separate interior population in the Rockies (SE British Columbia to N Idaho and NW Montana), in zone 4-6.
If this cultivar is from the interior population, then you have no problem; if it derives from the coastal population, then probably not hardy.
Mine came from Iseli and the claim hardy to -20 to -30 F.
Up date...mine died...obviously rootstock not from interior population. Just a guess of course could have been climate or soil. As I under stand it real tough to grow in Midwest or anywhere other then its original environment.
Probably a good rule of thumb to go by is...Do any western hemlocks grow there? Would have to survive the total climate and soil combination, not to mention your winters which is a challenge in itself.
OK, thanks Dave. That's great information. I would never have known that!!
This is a photo of Tsuga mertensiana Blue Star
20 years old.
Wow! Beautiful, Henck. Will this one have the same potential zone problems as Thorsen's?
Interesting tree what other forms of Tsuga mertensiana
do you have?
I might suggest Tsuga caroliniana 'Mountain Mist'.
Hello Blue yew
I have many Tsuga mertensiana cultivars
Elizabeth,Glauca,Bump's Blue,Zigzag,Quartz Mountain,Nana Pendula,Extra Blue,HB Horstmann,Lepiniec,Mountain Light,Sdlg Horstmann,Sherwood Compact,
Tsuga mertensiana zone 5
Heck...can you post a photo of Elizabeth?
Photo for you of the Tsuga mertensiana Elizabeth
Thanks Henk...any special needs for this cultivar...ok for Zone 5?
Henk - You're a wealth of knowledge and plant images. Keep up the helpful work!
If you have one, I'd love to see 'Bumps Blue'. I have one coming and no idea where it might fit.
PlantMarker - do you have a photo of Tsuga caroliniana 'Mountain Mist' ?
Photo of Tsuga caroliniana Mountain Mist.
It's look a like Tsuga caroliniana LaBar Weeping.
I've used this info to keep my Tsuga mert. 'Bumps Blue' going for three years now. Hardy to zone 5, but does not like the heat or dry air.
Here is a link that might be useful: Ore St mert stuff
I may be submitting this twice. Apologies, if so.
My parents grew a Sargent's Weeping Hemlock for about 40 years. It was beautiful and my mother loved it dearly. Unfortunately, the new owners of her home have cut it down to make room for heaven knows what!! My mother is devastated.
Can anyone recommend a place to purchase a new one for her. She lives in Damariscotta, ME. Thank you in advance.
PS - I do not yet know how to post a photo. But, I will, if I can work it out.
I have 4 Sargent's in my garden and they are beautiful. But the one that gets the most sun ( 4 hours) look the best. The one that got the least (1 hour) was just OK and so I cut down a couple of poplars to provide more sun and it has responded. The photos above suggest that the plants get quite a bit of sun and so you need to factor in how much shade you have in your garden.
Hello Wil this is a photo of Tsuga mertensiana Bump's Blue for you.
Anyone know of a good source for all these rare Tsuga Merts?? I've been lusting over 'bumps blue' 'glauca' 'blue star' I can't find a nursery source, mail order or otherwise. Any help is greatly appreciated! I think I found a source for 'elizabeth'
Hostaguy- You can try at the link below for 'Bump's Blue'.
Here is a link that might be useful: Cloud Mtn
Thank you TSUGAJUNKIE!!! Excellent!
I just can't get enough. They take my breath away. Every one of them. Just beautiful
Them's some good plants. Thanks for all the photos.
Tsuga caroliniana 'Mountain Mist' in full shade growing at the nursery of Rich and Susan Eyre, 'Rich's Foxwillow Pine, near Chicago, Illinois. Very very graceful and elegant plant. Like 'Thorsen's Weeping' or 'Sargentii', these must be staked or they will grow on the ground horizontally:
What do you think about one on each side of a front entry instead of a traditional alberta spruce? (probably considered partial sun area)
Thanks for the pics of Mountain Mist. Mine is tiny but healthy. Now I know what to expect. I had never seen any pics of it before.