E. setosa vs. E. 'Doris Taylor'

ctreeteac(Zone 8b; rain-spewing Oregon)December 5, 2011

For quite some time I've been fuzzy about the difference between Echeveria setosa and Echeveria 'Doris Taylor.' In some photos I can maybe discern a difference in leaf shape, but in others not. I was wondering if anyone might know how to best distinguish between the two.

Immense appreciation,

Colleen

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lzrddr(91360)

Echeveria Doris Taylor is a cultivar made partly from E setosa I think. E setosa is a smaller, flattened plant with charateristic flowers that are part yellow and part red. E Doris Taylor is a much larger plant (nearly double the size, both in terms of diameter as well as three dimensionally). Its flowers are a pale orange with yellow and a bit less striking.

Echeveria setosa

Echeveria Doris Taylor

Echeveria setosa flowering

Echeveria setosa flowers

Echeveria Doris Taylor flowers

Hope that helps

    Bookmark   December 5, 2011 at 1:36AM
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ctreeteac(Zone 8b; rain-spewing Oregon)

Yes, that was a massive help and answered my question. The size difference I wasn't aware of. Thanks so much. I've seen a boatload of mislabeling of these two.

    Bookmark   December 5, 2011 at 1:47AM
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bikerdoc5968 Z6 SE MI

Thanks LZ. I enjoyed your commentary and your wonderful pictures which made things VERY clear. Now to get one of each, my next project. I know both are available just got to find some hopefully locally.

    Bookmark   December 5, 2011 at 7:26AM
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cactusmcharris

Geoff,

Awesome set of pictures which, in a word, defines it in toto, I reckon. Thanks for the flowers. I have one ill-lit NWC in flower, struggling to open, but that's great flower colour, pushing away even the Monday Morning Blues. I remember the hummingbirds on the E. setosa flowers from several plants on a shelf.

    Bookmark   December 5, 2011 at 9:17AM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

Echeveria 'Doris Taylor' is purportedly a cross between Echeveria setosa and Echeveria pulvinata.

Moran gives a fairly exhaustive examination of E. setosa in the link.

Here is a link that might be useful: variation in E. setosa

    Bookmark   December 5, 2011 at 5:16PM
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