Clementine dwarf: Growth above or below rootstock?

Boozemonkey(Massachusetts 6B)December 28, 2013

Hi everyone,

I recently posted about my trees being in distress along with their owner. My poor bald Clementine just put out some new growth but I don't know if its above the graft or below. If I had to take a guess I would say below. But I would like a second opinion ïÂÂ

Also should I trim off the black on the branches or leave it until new growth sprouts?

Is this a good sign that the plant is recovering from its bad care/transplant shock, or should I not get my hopes up yet :) ?

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hoosierquilt USDA 10A Sunset 23 Vista CA(10b Sunset 23)

That is most likely new growth from the scion, I would leave it be for now. Often, new growth will first start right at the graft line as you're seeing. And, any branches that are black are most likely dead, so you could prune that off. New growth would be an indication of recovery.

Patty S.

    Bookmark   December 28, 2013 at 10:13AM
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Boozemonkey(Massachusetts 6B)

Update: New growth is showing some leaves now. Patty do you think its still above the scion? Plenty of suckers have been growing recently and I've pruned them off. The tree is still turning black from top to bottom.

    Bookmark   January 5, 2014 at 7:20PM
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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Sure looks trifoliate to me.

Josh

    Bookmark   January 5, 2014 at 8:24PM
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Boozemonkey(Massachusetts 6B)

Sorry Josh I'm a little lost being a newbie.

Are you saying the rootstock is trifoliate orange and this is a sucker I have to prune?

Or are you saying Clementine is trifoliate and this is good :)

I apologize for my lack of knowledge.

Booze

    Bookmark   January 5, 2014 at 9:10PM
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hoosierquilt USDA 10A Sunset 23 Vista CA(10b Sunset 23)

Nope. Josh is correct - trifoliate rootstock (see the "leaves of three"). Rub it off with your thumb or finger.

Patty S.

    Bookmark   January 5, 2014 at 10:16PM
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Boozemonkey(Massachusetts 6B)

Aw that's so defeating, that was the only new growth. im starting to wonder if the scion is dead and the rootstock is the only thing alive.

    Bookmark   January 5, 2014 at 10:26PM
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greenman28 NorCal 7b/8a

Yeah, sorry, man.
If that green upright stem is the scion, it still looks lively to me. There's a chance.
You might look for a replacement, as well.

Josh

    Bookmark   January 5, 2014 at 11:53PM
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Dave in NoVA • 7a • Northern VA

Yup, the grafted part is still alive! See how green it is?

Remove any new growths with trifoliate leaves. That is the rootstock trying to grow.

I'll bet the top leafs out this spring. Probably with a new flush of flowers too!

Patience.

    Bookmark   January 7, 2014 at 11:56AM
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Boozemonkey(Massachusetts 6B)

Well, I lost my first citrus tree :''( The scion is completely black now. I was hoping it was dormant but the black spread all over. The nursery I purchased the tree from had a 3 year warranty so I'll try and contact them and see what they say. I was so excited about my Clementine tree too :(

Thanks to all that tried to help me out. Sad part is my MH lights come in this Wednesday. I wonder if they would have saved the little tree.

    Bookmark   January 10, 2014 at 9:22PM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

Every plant you kill: if you learn something, it's not a loss. You may have lost the plant, but gained some knowledge. You are starting with something difficult (indoor citrus without a heated glasshouse) so it may take several attempts to get it right.

    Bookmark   January 10, 2014 at 9:46PM
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Boozemonkey(Massachusetts 6B)

Thanks Hoovb, Im not giving up!

    Bookmark   January 11, 2014 at 8:16AM
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