Abies recurvata ID help

monkeytreeboy15(Zone 7b/8a)June 14, 2012

I purchased this tree labeled Abies squamata, but some of you knowledgable people said it was actually Abies recurvata. I just wanted to verify that it is indeed Abies recurvata. This tree has a very open habit and incredibly stiff and sharp needles that are arranged very symmetrically on the branches.

Also, I already have a plant in the collection named Abies recurvata var. ernestii, and this plant has softer, more blunt needles that are a dark, glossy green color. The tree has a more dense growth habit compared to the alleged Abies recurvata also.

Thank you for lending your opinion in accurately identifying these two trees.

-Sam

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greenhaven(SW MI z6)

I have no real knowledge to offer but your photos are beautiful!

    Bookmark   June 14, 2012 at 6:39PM
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pineresin

Yep, Abies recurvata for sure.

Resin

    Bookmark   June 15, 2012 at 4:45PM
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monkeytreeboy15(Zone 7b/8a)

Thank you for your valuable assurance, Resin.

Could you explain to me what the differences are between Abies recurvata and its variant ernestii that makes it a unique variant? Thanks!

-Sam

    Bookmark   June 16, 2012 at 3:20AM
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pineresin

Not a lot of difference - var. ernestii has slightly longer needles (to 3.5 cm; vs. to 3 cm in the type) and a greater tendency to have needles with bifid tips on vigorous shoots. It comes from the southern end of the species' range; they probably intergrade extensively where they meet.

Resin

    Bookmark   June 17, 2012 at 7:56PM
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