Identify the cypress, holiday photos etc.

richardus(6)July 28, 2011

Been on holiday in the national park Mljet, and island in Croatia. Absolute heaven on earth. I thought I'd borrow a cone and try growing something out of it as a souvenir but I don't know what I got and how I should proceed. Included are some photos to help you identify it. I think it's a cypress and I hope it's not another arizonica because I already got one.

The last photo is just an idea of what this place looks like. Those conifers are not cut but actually growing just above the lake surface. Beautiful!

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richardus(6)

Oops, I think those might be too small...

The last one, not the trees from which the cone was picked...

    Bookmark   July 28, 2011 at 8:51AM
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scotjute

Primarily from the cones,it is not Arizona Cypress. It looks like wild Italian Cypress. Also has bark and greener color similar to what I would expect, but I am not well-versed in Italian Cypress. The Cupressus Conservation Project has a fairly detailed cone chart comparing cones of different cypress that should be helpful in identifying it.
I'm currently growing a wild Italian cypress derived from a tree I found in Balmorhea, Tx. Beautiful specimen.

    Bookmark   July 28, 2011 at 9:38AM
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pineresin

Mediterranean Cypress Cupressus sempervirens. It is not native in the area, but commonly naturalised there.

The pines in the last pic are Aleppo Pine Pinus halepensis.

Resin

    Bookmark   July 28, 2011 at 10:56AM
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richardus(6)

Correct on the Allepo pines. They were everywhere...

    Bookmark   July 29, 2011 at 8:16AM
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richardus(6)

Basic question on my holiday souvenir: I got the seeds after I left the cone to open up for some three weeks, I've soaked them in water for 24 hours and are now in the fridge for another month, cold stratification and all.

Would you suggest I try and germinate them in potted soil end of September, beggining of October? What should I expect if I do so?

    Bookmark   September 4, 2011 at 8:08AM
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nothotsuga

If I understod right you are speaking of Cupressus seeds, right? See the advice following the link below. You can sow anytime provided you will keep the seedlings frost free during the cold months, and if at 20ð to add a growing lamp. But you will not be able to plant a Cupressus sempervirens outside in zone 6.

Question: is it the same tree on photo 2 and 3?

Here is a link that might be useful: Practical Seedling Growing

    Bookmark   September 4, 2011 at 8:46AM
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richardus(6)

Same tree on photos 2 and 4, Mediterranean Cypress, yes.

That is a good website there. As for zones, I think it's possible as I've seen at least two of them outside where I live, I just didn't know these were Mediterranean ones before.

I will give it a go. 20 September I'll sow them in pots, germinated seeds or not as per that website, and see what happens.

    Bookmark   September 4, 2011 at 9:48AM
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coniferjoy(z7 The Netherlands)

Is it Aleppo Pine or Allepo Pine, I see both species names mentioned here...

    Bookmark   September 4, 2011 at 9:58AM
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nothotsuga

As for zones, I think it's possible as I've seen at least two of them outside where I live.

Surprise! It is not hardy in Germany (with few exceptions), when most of the country is zone 7 and 6. Could you please post a photo of theses trees? And I am very curious to know in which region you are living. Origin of your seeds should be zone 9.

It is Aleppo Pine although I don't understand why there are two "p". In French : Pin d'Alep, and of course only one "p" in halepensis.

    Bookmark   September 4, 2011 at 10:20AM
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richardus(6)

I'm in Skopje, Macedonia which is more or less in the Medditeranean region, some 200 km inland of Aegean and Adriatic/Ionian Sea.

If by origin of seeds you mean where I collected these, it's an island off the coast of Dubrovnik, Croatia.

I'll post the photos of the two cypresses tomorrow or the day after, now the light is not the best.

    Bookmark   September 4, 2011 at 12:18PM
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nothotsuga

Thanks, Richardus!

Now I understand better. According to my hardiness zone map of Europe, Skopje is in zone 7. And Southern Europe is surely better than Northern Europe.

    Bookmark   September 4, 2011 at 12:58PM
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pineresin

The Syrian city (after which the pine is named) has always been Aleppo in English; "allepo" is just a spelling error.

What colour were the cypress seeds you got out of the cone?

Resin

    Bookmark   September 4, 2011 at 6:38PM
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