Question about Cedrus libani 'Pendula'

benjamin85September 23, 2011

Hy,

I am wondering if there is a true Cedrus libani 'Pendula' or is there a mix-up and only Cedrus atlantica Glauca pendula exists and they are sometimes selled as weeping libanon cedar?

Benjamin

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fotisr

If Edwin says so...

Here is a link that might be useful: Edwin's Cedrus libani 'Pendula'

    Bookmark   September 23, 2011 at 7:14AM
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firefightergardener(7/8)

There is a cultivar named Cedrus libani 'Sargentii' as well which could be either the same plant or something very similar to Cedrus libani 'Pendula'.

-Will

    Bookmark   September 23, 2011 at 9:34AM
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bboy(USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA)

The common thing is various weeping Himalayan cedars being sold as weeping Cedar-of-Lebanon. 'Glauca Pendula' Atlas cedar is too distinctive to be a part of this.

    Bookmark   September 23, 2011 at 11:39AM
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coniferjoy(z7 The Netherlands)

The one at my pic is a true Cedrus libani 'Pendula' which is totaly differend from the Cedrus libani 'Sargentii'.
Cedrus deodara 'Pendula' does have longer needles then the Cedrus libani 'Pendula'...

Another thing is that the true name for the Cedrus libani 'Pendula' is Cedrus libani var. atlantica 'Pendula' while the Cedrus libani 'Sargentii' is a true Cedrus libani cultivar...
By far these have nothing to do with eachother.

    Bookmark   September 23, 2011 at 5:05PM
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sluice

Here is one labeled: Cedrus Libani 'Pendula' Weeping Cedar of Lebanon, at Denver Botanic Garden

    Bookmark   September 23, 2011 at 10:25PM
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benjamin85

Look at the link.
There is a Cedrus atlantica 'Glauca Pendula' and a Cedrus libani 'Glauca Pendula'.

Here is a link that might be useful: Cedrus cultivars

    Bookmark   September 24, 2011 at 9:35AM
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coniferjoy(z7 The Netherlands)

Benjamin, we discussed this before.
The last pic isn't a Cedrus libani 'Glauca Pendula' but a Cedrus deodara 'Glauca Pendula'.
May be this was before you became a member of this forum.

Btw where in Germany do you live?

    Bookmark   September 24, 2011 at 10:22AM
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bboy(USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA)

Yes, the last two forms shown on the Lone Elder table linked to above are examples of Himalayan cedar clones much sold erroneously as weeping forms of Cedar-of-Lebanon.

    Bookmark   September 24, 2011 at 12:02PM
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benjamin85

Hy coniferjoy, i lived in Stuttgart but now i am studying in Lower Saxony (Arboriculture). Don't know if i go back to Stuttgart afterwards...I'll see

Thanks for bringing light in the cedar confusion. They should change to correct names.

    Bookmark   September 24, 2011 at 4:44PM
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benjamin85

Can you tell me cultivars that truly origin from Cedrus libani?

    Bookmark   September 25, 2011 at 3:53AM
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coniferjoy(z7 The Netherlands)

Yep Benjamin, here are some:
'Beacon Hill'
'Comte de Dijon'
'Green Knight'
'Green Prince'
'Heemstede'
'Nana'
'Sargentii'
'Taurus'

Are you still at school and learning to become a nurseryman or a gardner?

    Bookmark   September 25, 2011 at 4:28AM
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benjamin85

Thanks,
no i am not at school i am studying at university to become an Arborist (Look for Arboriculture in the internet). Collecting special conifers and the study of trees are one of my big hobbys.

    Bookmark   September 25, 2011 at 6:19AM
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coniferjoy(z7 The Netherlands)

I checked the Arboriculture on the internet.
What I reed there is nothing new to me, I'm doing this all day long but then only in the conifer field ;0)

Which special conifers did you collect in the meanwhile?

Here is a link that might be useful: Arboriculture Wikipedia

    Bookmark   September 25, 2011 at 12:27PM
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benjamin85

Sounds good what you are doing :)
I have:

- Abies alba 'Barabits Star'
- Araucaria araucana
- Cedrus libani 'Sargentii'
- Chamaecyparis lawsoniana 'Intertexta', 'Imbricata Pendula'
- Cryptomeria japonica 'Tansu'
- Larix kaempferi 'Stiff Weeper'
- Metasequoia glyptostroboides 'Bluish', 'Matthaei'
- Picea omorika 'Pendula Bruns'
- Pinus aristata 'Schneverdingen'
- Pinus schwerinii 'Wiethorst'
- Sciadopitys verticillata 'Sternschnuppe'
- Sequoia sempervirens 'Loma Prieta Spike'
- Sequoiadendron giganteum 'Barabits Requiem'
- Taiwania cryptomerioides
- Taxus baccata 'Graciosa Pendula'
- Thuja standishii

Most of them are still potted. I also have some 'hard-to-find' deciduous trees, like Ulmus glabra 'Nana' and Fraxinus excelsior 'Abiona'. At least they are hard to find where i come from.

    Bookmark   September 26, 2011 at 1:18AM
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coniferjoy(z7 The Netherlands)

Nice list of conifers and all written in the good way!
The only additional is to put a "x" mark at the Pinus schwerinii (x) 'Wiethorst', because it's a cross...

    Bookmark   September 26, 2011 at 2:06AM
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benjamin85

Thats right, thanks.
I've seen you live in the Netherlands. Did you visit esveld. Sure you know the nursery.
I also found this link. Is this from you? Is it where you live or work? Looks great!

Here is a link that might be useful: Conifers

    Bookmark   September 27, 2011 at 7:47AM
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bboy(USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA)

Stock of 'Beacon Hill' seen here is clearly the same clone or at least type as the Beacon Hill planting of Cedrus deodara 'Repandens'.

    Bookmark   September 27, 2011 at 12:59PM
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