Abies veitchii f. olivacea

ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5December 2, 2011

just to prove i do make changes to the dB ...

bought as: Abies veitchii 'Olivaceae'

changed to, based on youse guys: Abies veitchii f. olivacea

of course.. they will now tell me there has been another nomenclature name change.. lol ...

that is not a secondary leader.. its just an optical illusion ...

looks like it is finally settling in and getting established.. note the leader growth rate ...

ken

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whaas_5a(5A SE WI)

Wow, is that leader 2'?

You have some neat cultivars you're pulling out of the hat.

Keep em' coming. I'm enjoying them and I'm sure others are as well.

    Bookmark   December 2, 2011 at 2:50PM
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ladylotus(Z3/4 ND)

Ken, that is a gorgeous Abies veitchii 'Olivaceae'. It really is putting out some quick growth eh? Very very nice.

    Bookmark   December 2, 2011 at 4:59PM
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davidrt28 (zone 7)

That's extremely odd. I'm sure you'd be qualified to recognize this, but it sure looks like a rootstock that is zooming past a scion.
What is the point of this cultivar?

    Bookmark   December 2, 2011 at 6:15PM
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pineresin

Looks to me like a grafted side shoot that is starting to develop apical dominance - it should get more symmetrical over the next year or two.

The only difference from typical Abies veitchii is that the immature cones are green, not purple.

Resin

    Bookmark   December 2, 2011 at 6:52PM
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Embothrium(USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA)

Yes, a botanical forma rather than a cultivated variety (cultivar, for short).

Except that in this particular instance it may be that in cultivation a clone or small number of clones have been produced by grafting. Which means a de facto cultivar has been produced - a cultivar name should be raised to differentiate this stock from the rest of f. olivacea.

The "aceae" ending is used for family names only, so there would never be a proper cultivar name with that ending.

    Bookmark   December 2, 2011 at 8:06PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

david .... just for you .. i walked out... at night.. 27 degrees.. and a blistering wind....

its an optical delusion....

its all above the graft ... the white is under.. but being on the hill... we see some from below.. and some from the top ... creating the delusion .. lol ...

as for the rest of you .. i said: that is not a secondary leader.. its just an optical illusion ...

its most likely.. the first lateral.. oh so many years ago... doing something weird.. due to the hill ... both camera angle.. and weird growth ..

ken

    Bookmark   December 2, 2011 at 8:44PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

maybe someone should name one.. 'Olive Oyl"

lol

ken

    Bookmark   December 2, 2011 at 8:49PM
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clement_2006

Olivacea are the colour of olive,witch are the colour of the cone.It's just a variety,with a green cone not a cultivar.
Clement

    Bookmark   December 3, 2011 at 2:37AM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

one thing for sure... its going to be much larger than i thought.. way back when.. when i planted to too close to the rest ....

at the link.. its the small one.. right above the day lily .. in front of aurea.. and to the right of otto ...

duh ... i can put the pic right here... some times i wonder about you all .. lol.. but most of the time i am wondering what i am thinking.. lol ...ken

Here is a link that might be useful: link

    Bookmark   December 3, 2011 at 9:46AM
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